Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3REKeLw013002 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:20:41 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1d3kDX-0007g6-IS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:16:23 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1d3kDW-0007fx-Uh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:16:22 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1d3kDT-0002Xp-9I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:16:21 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B19F20C54 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3wDJsD257Bz10Bm for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:16:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5901FD30.5010902@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:16:16 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1106627522.20170427150315@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1106627522.20170427150315@gmail.com> X-Scan-Signature: 086f3faad0220c9ae57a7913e711a86d Subject: Re: LF: Varistor spike management Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11493 Hi Chris, Which type of FETs are you using? The IRFP460A for example has a built in Z-diode which seems to handle the spikes. Anyway i put a 150 Ohm / 220 pF (for LF) series RC paralell to the Drain-Source... 73, Stefan Am 27.04.2017 16:03, schrieb Chris Wilson: > Hello LF'ers, > > In the hope it may help or be of interest my experiments with > containing the level of spikes seen at the end of a TX on the drains > of push pull FET's has shown that the conventional, wire lead > varistor of sufficient capacity to quell these spikes adds > significant capacitance and ringing on the drains is greatly > increased. I thought I'd get some surface mount ones and the > difference is quite remarkable. They add NO additional ringing as > they are physically a LOT smaller for a similar power handling > ability, and thus have much less intrinsic capacitance themselves. I > used these and spikes on the end of a TX where the back emf was > showing up to 400V + are kept at or below 200V, within the > capability of most FETs likely to be used in a medium or large power > amp. They also have that wonderful quality that we all love of being > very cheap! > > http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic-electronic-components/erzvf2m121/varistor-smd-120v/dp/1845508 > > I am not sure if many have looked at their drain wave form when a TX > ceases, I have to assume everyone has some spiking, just what > decides how great it is I am not sure. > >