Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3JC82Sk016215 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:08:03 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1d0oLO-0001PO-Jh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:04:22 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1d0oLN-0001PA-JB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:04:21 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1d0oLI-00024F-OE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:04:20 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A4FF20A73 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3w7LJZ6yfFzyqZ for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <58F7523E.50304@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:04:14 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <58F48E7E.17668.80FC91@roelof.ndb.demon.nl> <9E7678AF78C14D20B28472DF6749967A@AGB> <58F523AB.16927.6F358B@roelof.ndb.demon.nl> <58F52756.9090301@posteo.de> <8335a810-b99c-84d5-30f1-b9dd1f7f8e79@psk31.plus.com> <58F727CF.6000603@posteo.de> <1c4a22fa-60bf-9090-4e57-6ad9bfecba98@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <1c4a22fa-60bf-9090-4e57-6ad9bfecba98@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 17343f7e400f1005b5081acbd4115359 Subject: Re: VLF: New carrier on 6470.005 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040207090404060003060403" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11393 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040207090404060003060403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Paul, Something went wrong. The transmission should have stopped at 11:48:16 UTC. But the PSK continues. Obviously i made a mistake. The symbol time is correct, one can also see it by the psk sidebands which have a null in +- 0.25 Hz 'distance' to the center frequency (http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html ). I checked the txt file for the transmission, it contains 4384 symbols. That would fit the number of seconds for a *40 character* message when all other parameters are set as announced. That transmission would stop at *12:52:16 UTC*. The expected Eb/N0 would be even 0.2 dB lower. Let's just try and see what happens. I can give you the txt file for analysis if we can't manage a decode, then we at least see what went wrong... So, an even higher challenge! 73, Stefan Am 19.04.2017 11:19, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Yes it looks borderline. But the blanker setting I used > for the carrier measurements was appropriate for nighttime. > > I can probably gain a dB or two when I decode the EbNaut > by using a daytime threshold. > > So, cautiously optimistic on this one. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > --------------040207090404060003060403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Paul,

Something went wrong. The transmission should have stopped at 11:48:16 UTC. But the PSK continues. Obviously i made a mistake. The symbol time is correct, one can also see it by the psk sidebands which have a null in +- 0.25 Hz 'distance' to the center frequency (http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html ).
I checked the txt file for the transmission, it contains 4384 symbols. That would fit the number of seconds for a 40 character message when all other parameters are set as announced. That transmission would stop at 12:52:16 UTC. The expected Eb/N0 would be even 0.2 dB lower. Let's just try and see what happens. I can give you the txt file for analysis if we can't manage a decode, then we at least see what went wrong...

So, an even higher challenge!

73, Stefan


Am 19.04.2017 11:19, schrieb Paul Nicholson:

Yes it looks borderline.  But the blanker setting I used
for the carrier measurements was appropriate for nighttime.

I can probably gain a dB or two when I decode the EbNaut
by using a daytime threshold.

So, cautiously optimistic on this one.

--
Paul Nicholson
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