Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,SPF_PASS,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3EBXWTB018628 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:33:33 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cyzQ4-0006B7-1w for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:29:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cyzQ3-0006Ay-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:29:39 +0100 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.196]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1cyzPz-0001EW-HE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:29:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.125] ([72.224.254.201]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus001 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LgFj0-1cDVWL0QcO-00neSn for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:29:33 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <33CE58375F0E485AA41770E0C8552335@AGB> <21C25792F3E84B2CA4CA3AEBCB7D4011@AGB> <71a26ccf-2a24-26d0-9a7e-aa1485ab1630@n1bug.com> <6E4F585DCCD348E9B106EF92AB646B4A@AGB> From: N1BUG Message-ID: <4b309ff5-66c9-10e4-48d9-b158fb68bf06@n1bug.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 07:29:31 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6E4F585DCCD348E9B106EF92AB646B4A@AGB> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pavon/QER3N2/JxPI3g5NJyaifSGnH4uTGu0wmg0CtNT+K5m0dG ZWIswL4VS+brldkJROdY4w+sexRel6e2Nleusm1u1CbTvKyl+lYO25+wbiOzTN8jxps9Cc9 4VCSDjWEBbOFfwqUAJO3sXgqY3lyTO7ASx62j4yCIV8njMkfKy94M7xzUonWfh1iIm2BCU7 t1gInLfV3k+CqUJCXU9/g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:qYZnIk73lC0=:efF5amlUKlTLCbW9NiPV9O jwl3f1skgHeO8cGRPMv9hcqB7IzXdKDtI5pu86zJSE/PKFHn1JLbaKlbymM4ZRVxu7NSIqWZh PmK1qfm0faLN/nyzA52dw2kf+WL6RIXu0keAcmsqolreCdwwGwHgI3Ll+vpXfdRL7P1vHVJeC siBqh0d7JuQ932+RqUEEgQ1cQt3ypjaetE1uFA3g9L0IDQwWbojEZI30rzh1Xkrj4zrw9alfJ 4Va0YXv4uB7XapyIH/2pdLDaZYEN5V4k+fQTF7NXekiZs5DDumwernk1do5753o9APxlQl3oZ fjNGgnl+LhWTckVH1dhs7ZYc5O1Qa22aYlD35bosnDQLGRtt0Zfd4YuGqu4ArJiTgD4aYny40 31/8pYhr4JLlXEDVs0JdsLm3AJECNXz2a2WF88x35SFfspjADub+T7UML2sBxa0J+1y4nYnsk S9kyRkKLICo1wspMyH6MmH8JuFlsPLa0HhStTpI6dV+tQCId9SuZJN/3HvjEis1kmY1fmSMDm ZOCkR5wQThX23PPzQXVZx2fVhr5jY11EKY1viBFOK2/XCh454kxBxCJwo8JK14w85PPafFv4l 46rx8wnLJse2+KTkqnk+fg+VRf/2R7biNqJdcrKGK642KgQYwSNHn07b9O3ZCbwgdPNa/USsy u/NQ29gl02eIh/7cJK8Ano1iSsHY5bQ19HeGp9XCCk25EzQ4S3BezXHluDkEIZ/bakPqOScVu R1AF3SxdkMf/v60F X-Scan-Signature: 1708620d3ce65bee0beaaede7929769a Subject: Re: LF: 136 OP32 LAST 24HR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11281 Thanks for the additional explanations Graham. That helps clarify things for me. I had five full decodes of 2E0ILY last night with no more than 5% fade on the worse of them. Looks like Opera is going to keep the trans-Atlantic season going for a while. 73 Paul On 04/13/2017 12:14 PM, Graham wrote: > Thanks Paul, > > Yes , that's a full decode , -40 is round the switch over point , > The % fade is the amount of lost 'bits' along the time line , the > graphic , simply shows , 'where' the bits where 'lost' > A decode or Dynamic spot may be achieved with a loss up to approx 60% > of the data , either randomly , or in block's along the time line . > The displayed s/n is the average over the Tx period , as is the > Frequency [ recovered audio] average of the Tx > > Using Manchester coding , There are no synch requirements , each bit > contains ''data and sync'' , so its impossible for the system to > loose lock, ie, any bit that is recovered is usable , so interim's of > static / noise , the duration of the Tx pulse compared to the noise > bursts is 'very long' , this coupled with tailored dsp routines , provides > good performance on the lower bands , as dose the 'dispersed' decoder > version , deployed at VHF , which provides immunity to Doppler , Luis > EA5DOM , used the Op1 [ 60 second ] to achieve EME on 23 cm , with > round 50% data loss , > > 73-Graham > G0NBD -- Paul N1BUG 160m-2m DXCC Honor Roll WI2XTC 2200m-630m Experimental license FN55mf ME Piscataquis County http://www.n1bug.com http://www.aurorasentry.com