Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3HCZ2I7030347 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:35:03 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1d05nS-0005O0-OM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:30:22 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1d05lq-0005Ng-B2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:28:42 +0100 Received: from omr-a006e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.55]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1d05ll-0002dk-BL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:28:39 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.80]) by omr-a006e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C3EF938000AC for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-acb01d.mail.aol.com (core-acb01.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.1]) by mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3805338000082 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 188.192.95.60 by webprd-a65.mail.aol.com (10.72.57.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:28:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:28:34 -0400 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <15b7be2d19c-38c8-1fc08@webprd-a65.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.192.95.60] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1492432114; bh=PIJ/2GMDFf8RKSjsvy+YwJ5L933dbaZdyZLKRmLcHhk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R8DkfYmwIG4WEM3t03tA6rQTMv6qre8pCzs42UCxwjHcMsUVGpZVkkxMbYK34XgjQ R2GMoUthfS5BXdv67SHB7HayCaWCqoQluWvVRl8zrxisvkVQMyiL/ot1XViRK0uT/V b8vKL+YbRAiMOTR/MNdjO1kEc8tpuHwKCuBNbDqs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e5058f4b4f24950 X-Scan-Signature: 138e3b341e0543401afa7e97ee054540 Subject: VO1NA on VLF: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_150826_1203362253.1492432114073" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11353 ------=_Part_150826_1203362253.1492432114073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe, > Then the coil arced. Welcome to the club! I'd count that as a success: A real VLF amateur should= always be running close to the voltage limit of the antenna and coil! You = probably had around ~ 7 kV at 0.2 A? > -60 dB readings at 1 km What was the SNR and FFT bandwidth at that point? Scaling by r^-3 from 1 km= to 5.8 km, the signal would be expected to drop by 45 dB at the far field = boundary.=20 How long did the transmission last? Maybe it would make sense for Paul to i= nspect Mike's data from Forest/Virginia.=20 Any special reason why you use 8277 rather than 8270 Hz? Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: jcraig An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 16. Apr 2017 23:58 Betreff: Re: LF: 2017-04-16 03:15:13 VO1NA AA PA0RDT JO11TM 0 477 -25Op8_||= ||||||||||||_~25dB Hi Roelof, G.. and Group, The delayed curtain up on the opera was due to VLF tinkering. There was much excitement when a pc with a properly working sound card was deployed. Today I resurrected the low 100m aerial (Happy Easter to all) and fed 30 watts 200ma on 8277 and got some lovely -60 dB readings at 1 km. Then the coil arced. A far field detection was almost a certainty up to this point! OP8 on 479.477 kHz will resume at 2200 tonight. Good luck to all and keep up the good work with the RTL Roelof and thanks for the reports Graham. 73 Joe ... ------=_Part_150826_1203362253.1492432114073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joe,

> Then the coil arced.
Welcome to t= he club! I'd count that as a success: A real VLF amateur should always be r= unning close to the voltage limit of the antenna and coil! You&nb= sp;probably had around ~ 7 kV at 0.2 A?

> -60 dB readings at 1 km=
What was the SNR and FFT bandwidth at that point? Scaling by r^-3 = from 1 km to 5.8 km, the signal would be expected to drop by 45 dB at = the far field boundary.

How long did the transmission last? Maybe i= t would make sense for Paul to inspect Mike's data from Forest/Virgini= a.

Any special reason why you use 8277 rather than 8270 Hz?
Best 73,
Markus


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- =
Von: jcraig <jcraig@mun.ca>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 16. Apr 2017 23:58
Betreff: Re: = LF: 2017-04-16 03:15:13 VO1NA AA PA0RDT JO11TM 0 477 -25Op8_||||||||||= ||||_~25dB

Hi Roelof, G.. and Group,

The delayed curtai= n up on the opera was due to VLF tinkering.
There was much excitement wh= en a pc with a properly working
sound card was deployed. Today I resurre= cted the low 100m aerial
(Happy Easter to all) and fed 30 watts 200ma on= 8277 and
got some lovely -60 dB readings at 1 km. Then the coil arced.=
A far field detection was almost a certainty up to this point!

O= P8 on 479.477 kHz will resume at 2200 tonight. Good luck
to all and keep= up the good work with the RTL Roelof and
thanks for the reports Graham.=

73
Joe
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