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[129.206.22.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l41sm25407115wre.23.2017.03.21.09.09.26 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:09:27 -0700 (PDT) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <58D15036.1060307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:09:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Scan-Signature: 49f0f587e44d6711c57b8a4e950ba850 Subject: Re: LF: problems with mails to the list? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10948 Hi Jacek, LF, For the first time i have problems to write emails to this list. BTW i wonder why this happens on a late friday afternoon! For the moment i'm using another account now. I'm in contact with my email provider... Thanks for your help. Am 21.03.2017 12:25, schrieb Chris: > [...] > Regarding the list being quieter, I would suggest that's because it > has become dominated by mails relating to much lower frequencies of > little practical use to most of us. > Vy 73, > Chris, G4AYT. Dominated? There is no domination. Also no regimentation that either LF or MF or VLF or ULF is allowed to discuss. Everyone is free to discuss about the LF stuff in parallel. Or everyone is free to filter out certain emails (e.g. If subject contains "ELF:" then delete from server...) There has never been a definition or consensus what "LF" includes here. It seems the spectrum reaches from DC to < 500 kHz. Sometimes i hear about NAVTEX, so probably it is even < 520 kHz. 160m seems to be interpreted as OT. That's my point of view at least. I see there is a respectable activity on LF WSPR for example. No idea why there are no discussions about that, and no announcements and so on. At least the VLF activity does not lower the chance of LF messages coming through... 73, Stefan Am 20.03.2017 23:12, schrieb Jacek Lipkowski: > does anyone have problems sending mail to this list? if so could you > please send me the bounced message that you got (off list of course)? > > one of the members of this list wrote me that he has problems having > his emails accepted since a few days because of problems negotiating > tls (so far we don't know if it's a problem with this list's email > servers, or his provider's email servers. both seem to do tls 1.2 > without problem). maybe this is the reason why this list has less > posts lately (summer propagation on lf/mf might be another reason). > > btw i have never had any problems with emails bouncing or being > delayed, but some people reported it in the past. > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > >