Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: dcc1: mailn 1182; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v2DE6PCp003058 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 15:06:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cnQVa-00027Q-1q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:59:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cnQVX-00027H-V6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:59:31 +0000 Received: from mail.webgo24-server11.de ([37.17.224.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1cnQVU-0005H7-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 13:59:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.172] (xdsl-78-35-135-63.netcologne.de [78.35.135.63]) by mail.webgo24-server11.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E69369A635CF for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 14:59:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <58C6A5C1.8030909@vsas.de> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 14:59:29 +0100 From: Vincent Stallbaum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15aaa4c5dae-7ac8-16e29@webprd-m38.mail.aol.com> <58BF1556.2010604@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <58BF1556.2010604@posteo.de> X-Scan-Signature: ebcef237b0394d499a293e835099e25a Subject: Re: VLF: Tonite... - SpecLab freeze? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010609050400060105030602" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10897 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010609050400060105030602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Eddie, Stefan, I'm running a dedicated RX machine (Win8 x64) here 24/7. Software is: WSJT-X, WSPR-X, JTDX (UA3DJY), Opera 1.5.8, and minimum 7 SpecLab instances. After a few days (2 to 10 days) my Opera- and WSPR- / JT-instances' waterfalls are freezing and decoding stops without any error message. The SpecLab waterfalls are freezing a few days later producing a soundcard error. That happens on all three soundcards (MF, LF, VLF) simultanously! After that I have to reboot the machine. I tried different Soundcards. I tried running only WSJT, only Opera, or only one SpecLab instance simultanously and spent days for debugging. It's always crashing after some time. Hopefully I'll find the time to setup Win7 in March. To be continued... 73 Vinny Am 07.03.2017 21:17, schrieb DK7FC: > Hi Eddie, > > I have no such problems under Win7-Prof.-32bit. I'm running 31 > instances 24/7 on 4 PCs :-) > I remember DL6II mentioned similar problems under Win10. Must have to > do with sound drivers etc. I don't know exactly. Maybe he can add more > advice. > > 73, Stefan > > Am 07.03.2017 20:43, schrieb Markus Vester: >> Hi Eddie, >> >> no problems with freezes from that SpecLab version here so far. >> >> But I do find that Windows10 is not quite kosher regarding continuous >> operation. I'm running the slow VLF stuff on a convertible laptop >> under Win10 Home. Within a week or so after a restart, memory usage >> gradually creeps up from ~ 45 % to 85+%. At that stage, the PC >> becomes practically inoperable and needs to be rebooted. If I can >> still manage to shut down SpecLab instances cleanly, saving >> configuration data can take many minutes instead of a couple of >> seconds. Such things never occured on the faithful XP machine which >> is still hosting the LF and Loran grabbers. >> >> To prevent a loss of weeks and months of slowly aquired >> spectrograms, you could enable SpecLab's file-buffer, which should >> preserve screen content through a restart (see attached). >> >> Best 73, >> Markus >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- >> Von: g3zjo >> An: rsgb_lf_group >> Verschickt: So, 5. Mrz 2017 22:50 >> Betreff: Re: VLF: Tonite... >> >> On 05/03/2017 15:48, DK7FC wrote: >> > Then, during the week, i would like to try to send my full callsign to >> > Eddie in DFCW-6000. It could work, he can see me day and night it >> > seems :-) >> >> Yes that will be worth a try, I should have a stable set up ready, I >> have had a display freeze on my EbNaut instance so I shall miss the >> Sunday night transmission. >> >> I think Speclab v2.92 b02 suffers from display freeze, I used to run 8 >> to 10 instances without problems now the 4th instance seems to produce >> problems and one of the instances will or may freeze, not necessarily >> the last instance or an intensive (20uHz or 5uHz) one either. I wonder >> if anyone else is experiencing this. >> >> I have seen frozen displays still exporting updated screen captures too, >> a case of WYSINWYG (what you see is not what you get). >> >> It is a very difficult thing to test because of course I don't want to >> induce it, the processor load is only 15% with 4 instances running. >> >> 73 Eddie G3ZJO >> --------------010609050400060105030602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Eddie, Stefan,

I'm running a dedicated RX machine (Win8 x64) here 24/7. Software is: WSJT-X, WSPR-X, JTDX (UA3DJY),  Opera 1.5.8, and minimum 7 SpecLab instances.

After a few days (2 to 10 days) my Opera- and WSPR- / JT-instances' waterfalls are freezing and decoding stops without any error message.

The SpecLab waterfalls are freezing a few days later producing a soundcard error.

That happens on all three soundcards (MF, LF, VLF) simultanously! After that I have to reboot the machine.



I tried different Soundcards. I tried running only WSJT, only Opera, or only one SpecLab instance simultanously and spent days for debugging. It's always crashing after some time. Hopefully I'll find the time to setup Win7 in March. To be continued...


73
Vinny


Am 07.03.2017 21:17, schrieb DK7FC:
Hi Eddie,

I have no such problems under Win7-Prof.-32bit. I'm running 31 instances 24/7 on 4 PCs :-)
I remember DL6II mentioned similar problems under Win10. Must have to do with sound drivers etc. I don't know exactly. Maybe he can add more advice.

73, Stefan




Am 07.03.2017 20:43, schrieb Markus Vester:
Hi Eddie,

no problems with freezes from that SpecLab version here so far.

But I do find that Windows10 is not quite kosher regarding continuous operation. I'm running the slow VLF stuff on a convertible laptop under Win10 Home. Within a week or so after a restart, memory usage gradually creeps up from ~ 45 % to  85+%. At that stage, the PC becomes practically inoperable and needs to be rebooted. If I can still manage to shut down SpecLab instances cleanly, saving configuration data can take many minutes instead of a couple of seconds. Such things never occured on the faithful XP machine which is still hosting the LF and Loran grabbers.

To prevent a loss of weeks and months of slowly aquired spectrograms, you could enable SpecLab's file-buffer, which should preserve screen content through a restart (see attached).

Best 73,
Markus

 


-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: g3zjo <g3zjo@psk31.plus.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 5. Mrz 2017 22:50
Betreff: Re: VLF: Tonite...

On 05/03/2017 15:48, DK7FC wrote:
> Then, during the week, i would like to try to send my full callsign to
> Eddie in DFCW-6000. It could work, he can see me day and night it
> seems :-)

Yes that will be worth a try, I should have a stable set up ready, I
have had a display freeze on my EbNaut instance so I shall miss the
Sunday night transmission.

I think Speclab v2.92 b02 suffers from display freeze, I used to run 8
to 10 instances without problems now the 4th instance seems to produce
problems and one of the instances will or may freeze, not necessarily
the last instance or an intensive (20uHz or 5uHz) one either. I wonder
if anyone else is experiencing this.

I have seen frozen displays still exporting updated screen captures too,
a case of WYSINWYG (what you see is not what you get).

It is a very difficult thing to test because of course I don't want to
induce it, the processor load is only 15% with 4 instances running.

73 Eddie G3ZJO


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