Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v1BF9RAo018878 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:09:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ccZEt-0002bE-RS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:05:27 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ccZEt-0002b5-5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:05:27 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.135.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ccZEo-0000yB-UV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:05:26 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([78.150.99.89]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id cZEocUWTvxR4bcZEocxNSZ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:05:22 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [78.150.99.89] X-Spam: 0 X-OAuthority: v=2.2 cv=JNN5iICb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=baxIhyPjABw5dzY0/My51w==:117 a=baxIhyPjABw5dzY0/My51w==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=H6CGuiLHAAAA:20 a=aeSsrxEMAAAA:20 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=-EoiaQOxAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=o9X46BVPuU9L7JoRznAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=qsxLQ8knAAAA:20 a=0dwiSY47UegBvv83y70A:9 a=t5Dcc6WaYmHgWr64:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=QHtkgAQWe416q3_XZDgA:9 a=1Vq_FK4TplAA:10 a=IkpwDkYSuQsA:10 a=yJM6EZoI5SlJf8ks9Ge_:22 a=slCku8JSH3TyizEDQ3pD:22 a=LGFuAq6p6Cro4UW_cPvu:22 a=HPItUfg3-W5T9FFxMdBG:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15a2d3b96ee-34ef-4a9@webprd-a69.mail.aol.com> <589F165A.2050908@posteo.de> <0a528f34-6dcc-9b63-4c56-46b79f67f00b@psk31.plus.com> <38B8DCA90658410AAB68ED70729774ED@AGB> From: g3zjo Message-ID: <2b478cb9-10d7-da38-4ea6-85250d84451a@psk31.plus.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:05:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <38B8DCA90658410AAB68ED70729774ED@AGB> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 170210-4, 10/02/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGdulO8Q5ZN58ora+MAqdTWNxzWnEwpY1jLptE5lN84ieHV3fOu1I+CH6NcuV52t9tsjnwd4Rb5j7+Y4GKx7Vw3RTSvZtwg/kzhWQUS8knxy6P88C6hr kpIOO8i/EcGVWjA6goC2SVkzweeT3K6UR1FTvhgCq25QX+/OFd0yItZkNSdXjSHYilbK2WoV/U/9CA== X-Scan-Signature: 14e68a9cb6dee915a96310ea9bf261c5 Subject: Re: ULF: 5 wavelengths on the 101 km band? Valid or not? OT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8BD58D1F4C86F7584DD61627" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10552 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8BD58D1F4C86F7584DD61627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well done G I couldn't find that with Google. But I had forgotten the comedy sketch the advertisement prompted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE15EtuA6Z8 I also found:- ""In 1974, Goodyear started the ball rolling by launching a revolutionary new tyre with an endorsement by the former police chief Sir Robert Mark in a style so wooden that it could only be authentic. As he uttered the immortal words: 'I believe Goodyear tyres make a major contribution to road safety', a cult ad was born."" 73 Eddie On 11/02/2017 14:46, Graham wrote: > Good for emissions too Ed Smile emoticon > wet road = no smoke > G,) > [notice there is no abs, wheel is locked , so any nonsense about > water clearing is not relevant, as the wheel is not turning] > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2RLAIjroE > > *From:* g3zjo > *Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 2:22 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: ULF: 5 wavelengths on the 101 km band? Valid or not? > > Hi Stefan > > I am convinced, but do it again. > > On UK TV many years ago there was an advertisement for car tyres, > they didn't use an actor but an ex chief of police to say "I am > convinced that this is a contribution to road safety". The one thing > he didn't sound was convinced. I cant write with that tone in my > voice. :-) > > 73 Eddie G3ZJO > > > On 11/02/2017 13:49, DK7FC wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Meanwhile my 1 week taking transmission, starting 01.FEB.2017 23:30 >> UTC on 2970.000000 Hz at 150...170 mA is completed. I tried to leave >> a trace/peak into a range beyong 3 wavelengths. >> >> Renato Romero / IK1QFK is running a 5 uHz FFT spectrogram on 2970 Hz. >> He's using a well working E field antenna in Cumiana/Italy. >> The spectrogram is running since christmas evening 2016, available at >> http://www.webalice.it/rromero/live_cumiana/last-LFtest_2970.jpg >> >> There are time markers in 1 week intervals. >> >> I can see a dash, a trace right on the frequency. It appeared 2 days >> after i started transmitting, which is expected with an FFT window >> time of nearly 3 days. The SNR was up to 12 dB during the visual >> observation of incoming spectra. >> Partly, the trace disappered during the transmission time >> (destructive interference with QRN). However i can see a resulting >> trace of a high average SNR and exact (!) frequency stability >> relative to the other traces beeing present in the spectrogram. >> >> I would tend to call it a serious detection of my signal. Spectrogram >> experts, what's your opinion please? >> >> The distance is quite exactly at 5 wavelength on that 101 km band! >> It would be a *first detection on ULF (0.3...3 kHz) between DL - I* ! >> >> >> 73, Stefan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Avast logo > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > > --------------8BD58D1F4C86F7584DD61627 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------D6DABA933CEAD10DB276CA07" --------------D6DABA933CEAD10DB276CA07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Well done G

I couldn't find that with Google. But I had forgotten the comedy sketch the advertisement prompted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE15EtuA6Z8

I also found:-

""In 1974, Goodyear started the ball rolling by launching a revolutionary new tyre with an endorsement by the former police chief Sir Robert Mark in a style so wooden that it could only be authentic. As he uttered the immortal words: 'I believe Goodyear tyres make a major contribution to road safety', a cult ad was born.""

73 Eddie


On 11/02/2017 14:46, Graham wrote:
Good  for  emissions too Ed Smile emoticon  
wet road = no  smoke
 
G,)
 
[notice there is  no abs, wheel is locked , so  any nonsense about water clearing  is not relevant, as the  wheel is not turning] 
 

From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: ULF: 5 wavelengths on the 101 km band? Valid or not?

Hi Stefan

I am convinced, but do it again.

On UK TV many years ago there was an advertisement  for car tyres, they didn't use an actor but an ex chief of police to say "I am convinced that this is a contribution to road safety". The one thing he didn't sound was convinced. I cant write with that tone in my voice. :-)

73 Eddie G3ZJO


On 11/02/2017 13:49, DK7FC wrote:
Hi all,

Meanwhile my 1 week taking transmission, starting  01.FEB.2017 23:30 UTC on 2970.000000 Hz at 150...170 mA is completed. I tried to leave a trace/peak into a range beyong 3 wavelengths.

Renato Romero / IK1QFK is running a 5 uHz FFT spectrogram on 2970 Hz. He's using a well working E field antenna in Cumiana/Italy.
The spectrogram is running since christmas evening 2016, available at http://www.webalice.it/rromero/live_cumiana/last-LFtest_2970.jpg

There are time markers in 1 week intervals.

I can see a dash, a trace right on the frequency. It appeared 2 days after i started transmitting, which is expected with an FFT window time of nearly 3 days. The SNR was up to 12 dB during the visual observation of incoming spectra.
Partly, the trace disappered during the transmission time (destructive interference with QRN). However i can see a resulting trace of a high average SNR and exact (!) frequency stability relative to the other traces beeing present in the spectrogram.

I would tend to call it a serious detection of my signal. Spectrogram experts, what's your opinion please?

The distance is quite exactly at 5 wavelength on that 101 km band!
It would be a first detection on ULF (0.3...3 kHz) between DL - I !


73, Stefan



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