Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v1BEQcea018767 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:26:39 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ccYZQ-0002HB-A6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:22:36 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ccYZP-0002H2-Vb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:22:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.135.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ccYZM-0000jf-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:22:34 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([78.150.99.89]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id cYZKcUQN9xR4bcYZKcxLhV; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:22:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [78.150.99.89] X-Spam: 0 X-OAuthority: v=2.2 cv=JNN5iICb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=baxIhyPjABw5dzY0/My51w==:117 a=baxIhyPjABw5dzY0/My51w==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=-EoiaQOxAAAA:8 a=zbCzeyEEJVpjGN3cZpcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=AQZZSs_0xsOjYilgrCwA:9 a=fFTQ1HybvkJ62GN6:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=LGFuAq6p6Cro4UW_cPvu:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15a2d3b96ee-34ef-4a9@webprd-a69.mail.aol.com> <589F165A.2050908@posteo.de> From: g3zjo Message-ID: <0a528f34-6dcc-9b63-4c56-46b79f67f00b@psk31.plus.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:22:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <589F165A.2050908@posteo.de> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 170210-4, 10/02/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfB8QdNKrqLGvYd3Ri8X3eJ4183scCULbtWhAoimKggAC3Z1wjOOOLpPTRXsIivrHt8JLdmPYZ8NYmBFYZX7ATsmp/5h9yDBUnHVTqBz/ke2Jaqey9i1F zIEe6btm4VNt0dSmd/3GB3V2i9DwsePzQvkPfh2bFXLpOu1kTxmQJLW2gVhce3f2p36EoqrELLKjTw== X-Scan-Signature: 42bbe44aa18353e845a65753486d556c Subject: Re: ULF: 5 wavelengths on the 101 km band? Valid or not? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2589D4431DC301D844437D7F" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10550 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2589D4431DC301D844437D7F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan I am convinced, but do it again. On UK TV many years ago there was an advertisement for car tyres, they didn't use an actor but an ex chief of police to say "I am convinced that this is a contribution to road safety". The one thing he didn't sound was convinced. I cant write with that tone in my voice. :-) 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 11/02/2017 13:49, DK7FC wrote: > Hi all, > > Meanwhile my 1 week taking transmission, starting 01.FEB.2017 23:30 > UTC on 2970.000000 Hz at 150...170 mA is completed. I tried to leave a > trace/peak into a range beyong 3 wavelengths. > > Renato Romero / IK1QFK is running a 5 uHz FFT spectrogram on 2970 Hz. > He's using a well working E field antenna in Cumiana/Italy. > The spectrogram is running since christmas evening 2016, available at > http://www.webalice.it/rromero/live_cumiana/last-LFtest_2970.jpg > > There are time markers in 1 week intervals. > > I can see a dash, a trace right on the frequency. It appeared 2 days > after i started transmitting, which is expected with an FFT window > time of nearly 3 days. The SNR was up to 12 dB during the visual > observation of incoming spectra. > Partly, the trace disappered during the transmission time (destructive > interference with QRN). However i can see a resulting trace of a high > average SNR and exact (!) frequency stability relative to the other > traces beeing present in the spectrogram. > > I would tend to call it a serious detection of my signal. Spectrogram > experts, what's your opinion please? > > The distance is quite exactly at 5 wavelength on that 101 km band! > It would be a *first detection on ULF (0.3...3 kHz) between DL - I* ! > > > 73, Stefan --------------2589D4431DC301D844437D7F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Stefan

I am convinced, but do it again.

On UK TV many years ago there was an advertisement  for car tyres, they didn't use an actor but an ex chief of police to say "I am convinced that this is a contribution to road safety". The one thing he didn't sound was convinced. I cant write with that tone in my voice. :-)

73 Eddie G3ZJO


On 11/02/2017 13:49, DK7FC wrote:
Hi all,

Meanwhile my 1 week taking transmission, starting  01.FEB.2017 23:30 UTC on 2970.000000 Hz at 150...170 mA is completed. I tried to leave a trace/peak into a range beyong 3 wavelengths.

Renato Romero / IK1QFK is running a 5 uHz FFT spectrogram on 2970 Hz. He's using a well working E field antenna in Cumiana/Italy.
The spectrogram is running since christmas evening 2016, available at http://www.webalice.it/rromero/live_cumiana/last-LFtest_2970.jpg

There are time markers in 1 week intervals.

I can see a dash, a trace right on the frequency. It appeared 2 days after i started transmitting, which is expected with an FFT window time of nearly 3 days. The SNR was up to 12 dB during the visual observation of incoming spectra.
Partly, the trace disappered during the transmission time (destructive interference with QRN). However i can see a resulting trace of a high average SNR and exact (!) frequency stability relative to the other traces beeing present in the spectrogram.

I would tend to call it a serious detection of my signal. Spectrogram experts, what's your opinion please?

The distance is quite exactly at 5 wavelength on that 101 km band!
It would be a first detection on ULF (0.3...3 kHz) between DL - I !


73, Stefan

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