Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v1BI3dse019330 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 19:03:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ccbww-0003YI-GC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:59:06 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ccbwo-0003Y7-Gj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:58:58 +0000 Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:40]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ccbwk-0001iB-Vd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:58:57 +0000 Received: from resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.109]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id cbwZcAAzfy4bMcbwgcKUou; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:58:50 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=comcast.net Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1486835930; bh=vIgiTJqFOkSjPup740XmK6PT9/ytW5LIwakBN2I/m5o=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=jYdrFRu4rkVoILVqRih42nazKQ3bh9ukSFRslvQyUA25oP/X4ivKoGcODe7jgLAI0 9Jb/G6I7KcIvZ09o/q1gqFmG/gB2sK+5VP0R+xn3nRzp80amSgLg9atV2UJNEbZZgS vr3r5pPeXSmAgv/wdWfBGeHosX/4XkkQ/M0mFN2KAXZ5atlDy8TDFxrbGa4fq9oLpZ eE3nmQ2wXIhS+zcBK4plHN+7Ydu5p+Qcn+40uNqkoIuLyWEZjbbISdqiGy9HFvP0ZZ lxpjqfLoe/WplBkgAF6NdbAVsQ233AICyW6HLSxXOtAgOsloU6nai72rtYFhEJtZEs /zCrMiyPWAw+w== Received: from Owner ([IPv6:2601:140:8500:7f9f:ac16:77c6:4fca:1e8b]) by resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id cbwfcRFbHNqkkcbwfctF6O; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:58:50 +0000 From: To: References: <15a2dba5096-34ef-84f@webprd-a69.mail.aol.com> <08d41fff-f8b0-aecd-1afb-f9e65bcadbe8@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <08d41fff-f8b0-aecd-1afb-f9e65bcadbe8@abelian.org> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:42 -0500 Message-ID: <008401d28490$7f7d7090$7e7851b0$@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQI8EeajfBvq/xzO+8SkCnFLMtTAeAE7wPbfoIcXZGA= Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHndPl9u0E0l0CxGniscsz/VxMLkqzS3z1arF0+dUaQmGD2+rqfOK+/YYCQ6HXBYZo0JGtw11jagZjIQZqOZwlrTTCVfpnOwrbqFj5i9aDzJFml/2P7F tjJxT4x1cqj6GYd/Z7WQxhlK73h0cJn4TqU= X-Scan-Signature: c0336009bd9bab526ca27d297ea7579a Subject: RE: ULF: 5 wavelengths on the 101 km band? Valid or not? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v1BI3dse019330 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10556 Congratulations and compliments Stefan, Paul and Renato, Markus and Wolf for enabling and providing what so far seems to be the only published experimental data for this poorly-understood part of the spectrum and path space. This 5-wavelength result seems like a lone empirical narrowband reference in a 2kHz - 4kHz, 500km - 1000km wilderness. - Jim AA5BW -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nicholson Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 10:56 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: ULF: 5 wavelengths on the 101 km band? Valid or not? I scraped the pixels off the Cumiana spectrogram, (summing each row) and did my best guess of reversing the mapping of power to pixel brightness. http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/170211a.png 2970 is the strongest line. At least 3 sigma, maybe 4, depending on how you treat the lumpy floor. A physicist would insist on 5 sigma but the fact that the peak is at exactly the right frequency is significant in itself. Markus just wrote: > In my humble opinion, this is clearly a successful > detection. I was doubtful looking at the spectrogram but having plotted the pixels I am convinced. Spectrograms aren't good for this sort of thing. Oh for a spectrum plot! I couldn't get anything from the stream recording, too many timing breaks on the uplink. Best I can get in Todmorden is 2 and a bit sigma using just the daytime signal in 3.9 uHz. Not significant at all. Would need at least another 7 days of transmission. -- Paul Nicholson --