Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v0KI1MXq029559 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:01:23 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cUdNK-00051l-Sx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:53:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cUdNK-00051c-EN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:53:22 +0000 Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.71]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cUdNH-0000Lw-Pg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:53:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([86.31.33.210]) by know-smtprelay-7-imp with bizsmtp id ahtF1u0054Y1DuW01htJU4; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:53:18 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [86.31.33.210] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=SYcKDalu c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jn/JOh/JfiX48zzdjRLp/g==:117 a=jn/JOh/JfiX48zzdjRLp/g==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=wakH9e78iecA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=fSy0txwwRR0A:10 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=GoqwstHNAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=U-Hw8R-DvCdRwVWd82wA:9 a=qTqPY4FhN-haITTo:21 a=C4_gOOV_5idTvdsW:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4zOjnXqnbfPznnZ39DHr:22 a=aif6eW07jeEVVZOP0pFm:22 a=WQP3B-o2DcFb_-ao3AbR:22 a=ShfwlZvjYTKADRB-jT1f:22 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:53:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <58824E88.24485.1B9E789@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <159bbaf67b0-5d5-7a13@webprd-a21.mail.aol.com> References: <159bbaf67b0-5d5-7a13@webprd-a21.mail.aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.71.565) Content-description: Mail message body X-Scan-Signature: e4d79cc1e5beb0f7c63f6aa3ce129e10 Subject: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: 137kHz WSPR Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v0KI1MXq029559 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10255 I will be transmitting Op32 on 137.538kHz overnight, so that might add to the fun. My transmission is reasonably coherent so should show up on a long duration waterfall. Mike, G3XDV =========== > Hi All. > > I'll be transmitting WSPR tonight (Friday ) from 21.00 to 23.00UTC on > 137.520. > > Paul N1BUG has his new RX system running on the band and will be > listening for EU from his QTH in Maine. John 9H1XT will also be > monitoring on his 200m long antenna. > > FYI. I managed to reduce the catching fire issues. Initially the > feedthrough flashed over at 200 Watts. Solved that....Thanks for all > the suggestions I'm now up to 4.2 Amps of antenna current at which > point the litz in the matching flashes over. (TPO 600W) > > Still....More coil winding today and it will be nice and reliable for > this evening. > > If anyone would like to join in please feel free. I'm sure a little > QRSS just above or below the WSPR segment would be visible on the > waterfalls. I have to go QRT at 23.00, but that's still early for Paul > > 73 > > David > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Alan Melia' Alan.Melia@btinternet.com [rsgb_lf_group] > Sent: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 0:28 Subject: > Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: 137kHz WSPR > > > > > > > > Hi David, I think the trouble might be that if you have a sandwich of > solid "dielectric" and air with a voltage across the sandwich. Then > the highesr voltage is generated across the lowest dielectric > contstant gap.....the air. This of course readily ionises and breaks > down to give a hot spark, which of course burns its way through > plastics (and paper!) A better material belovedof the old radio > engineers is glass or ceramic. I used to laugh with Finbar that "you > haven't really been on LF until you have had a fire" :-)) or as Finbar > said if you transmit LF and dont have a fire, you are not running > enough power! > > Alan > G3NYK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David G0MRF g0mrf@aol.com [rsgb_lf_group] > > > Thanks to the 13 stations who reported my signals on 137k. (150W > TPO) > > I had completely forgotten how things catch fire on LF unless you do > all the insulation perfectly. > > Had the antenna passing through a small window with an Aluminium > frame: Ran the conductor through a length of hose pipe as > insulation. - Much smoke from hose Found old RSGB yearbook from > 2014. Opened it to about the middle and put in the antenna. Book > caught fire. > > Now searching e-bay for a decent diameter of perspex rod. Or is > there a better option? > > 73 > > David G0MRF > > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13800 - Release Date: > 01/19/17 >