Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=DC_PNG_UNO_LARGO, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: INFN-TO: mailn 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v0S9i3aM028578 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 10:44:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cXPU4-0004lZ-4J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:39:48 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cXPTx-0004lQ-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:39:41 +0000 Received: from omr-a007e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.58]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cXPTu-0005fS-9P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:39:40 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-maa02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-maa02.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.144]) by omr-a007e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9F8103800094 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 04:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-acx05a.mail.aol.com (core-acx05.mail.aol.com [10.76.14.46]) by mtaomg-maa02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C02E138000081 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 04:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 188.192.95.60 by webprd-a30.mail.aol.com (10.72.52.207) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 28 Jan 2017 04:39:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 04:39:34 -0500 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <159e471b549-517-bf53@webprd-a30.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <159e00f42d3-7bf3-ae24@webprd-m95.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.192.95.60] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5800.7501/114165 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1485596375; bh=6rfuA0jczJlmR8D1KK04DcGAjXTC3QRrXp9YXrPWhNk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yhhcu8WO2pSjM4ak64gbYRJATLt7TK4xIaryQVwncVuT7bv3KTeVrGOkXgGrpLlOM 1B065RSnbjrtJC7YLvp5+RG3vGJuVfPzbBNE+nsnci1sIh94bmtIAFmoQH4B18Jq1C kNIo6nxlxdqQ5dLZlHXdboQ0EKVD1ymd67pfmkX0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1ade90588c66d601a9 X-Scan-Signature: 7a302ec14fb4a62f16f049454b6dc54d Subject: Re: VLF: Transmission announcement for 8270 Hz Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_60669_1507938751.1485596374341" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10366 ------=_Part_60669_1507938751.1485596374341 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_60668_151628699.1485596374340" ------=_Part_60668_151628699.1485596374340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since yesterrday afternoon, my VLF "6000" grabber has been augmented by pha= se-colour of Stefan's carrier, referenced to SpecLab's internal GPS-locked = generator.. During the evening, the colour changed gradually from green to = yellow, showing the expected nighttime phase retardation. However shortly a= fter 2 UT, there occured a 180=C2=B0 jump trom yellow to blue, also obvious= in the attached plot (green trace, 90=C2=B0/div, 3 hours/div). I was wonde= ring whether that might be an irregularity in my E.field antenna circuitry,= but that would have messed up all the RDF spectrograms as well, which didn= 't happen. So maybe there was really a phase reversal at the transmitter? Best 73, Markus =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 27. Jan 2017 14:13 Betreff: Re: VLF: Transmission announcement for 8270 Hz Hi Stefan, thanks for the invitation. Three stations simultaneusly on air would be coo= l, just like in the old days on 8970. My antenna is up, but today I'd rathe= r make use of your strong carrier to observe the diurnal variation. Looks l= ike we've already entered the midday minimum. Maybe I should set up another= instance to observe the phase evolution as well. There's also some directional variation in Todmorden: After 8 UT, your carr= ier is better at 90=C2=B0 azimuth but lacking at 130=C2=B0. =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: DK7FC An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 27. Jan 2017 13:37 Betreff: Re: VLF: Transmission announcement for 8270 Hz Hello Uwe, Your signal looks nice on Pauls grabber. Is the new ALU tower higer than the tree before? Did you ground it to=20 the VLF earth? Are you now getting more antenna current? How much? Markus, will you join us on the 36 km band? :-) As far as i remember=20 there were never 3 amateur stations active on VLF to the same time :-) 73, Stefan ... ------=_Part_60668_151628699.1485596374340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since yesterrday afternoon, my VLF "6000" grabber has be= en augmented by phase-colour of Stefan's carrier, referenced to S= pecLab's internal GPS-locked generator.. During the evening, the = colour changed gradually from green to yellow, showing the expected ni= ghttime phase retardation. However shortly after 2 UT, there occured a= 180=C2=B0 jump trom yellow to blue, also obvious in the attached plot= (green trace, 90=C2=B0/div, 3 hours/div). I was wondering whether that mig= ht be an irregularity in my E.field antenna circuitry, but that would have&= nbsp;messed up all the RDF spectrograms as well, which didn't happen. = So maybe there was really a phase reversal at the transmitter?

= Best 73,
Markus
  

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilun= g-----
Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_g= roup <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 27. Jan 2017 1= 4:13
Betreff: Re: VLF: Transmission announcement for 8270 Hz

Hi Stefan,

th= anks for the invitation. Three stations simultaneusly on air would be cool,= just like in the old days on 8970. My antenna is up, but today I'd ra= ther make use of your strong carrier to observe the diurnal variation. Look= s like we've already entered the midday minimum. Maybe I should set up= another instance to observe the phase evolution as well.

There's al= so some directional variation in Todmorden: After 8 UT, your carrier is bet= ter at 90=C2=B0 azimuth but lacking at 130=C2=B0.  

Best 7= 3,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von= : DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.d= e>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 27. Jan 201= 7 13:37
Betreff: Re: VLF: Transmission announcement for 8270 Hz

<= /div>Hello Uwe,

Your signal looks nice on Pauls grabber.

Is t= he new ALU tower higer than the tree before? Did you ground it to
the V= LF earth? Are you now getting more antenna current? How much?

Markus= , will you join us on the 36 km band? :-) As far as i remember
there we= re never 3 amateur stations active on VLF to the same time :-)

73, S= tefan
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