Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: INFN-TO: mailn 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mailn.lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id uB7Nl3HE020162 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 00:47:04 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cElmN-0004E0-4P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:37:39 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cElmG-0004Dr-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:37:32 +0000 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cElmC-0004Wo-QA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 23:37:31 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FB5F20ADC for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 00:37:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3tYvzp4HcjzyqG for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 00:37:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <58489D36.3080501@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 00:37:26 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5843F55D.1020504@posteo.de> <5844957F.3070004@posteo.de> <5846942D.90906@abelian.org> <5847219F.7010904@posteo.de> <5847EC54.7090801@posteo.de> <584813C0.4000808@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <584813C0.4000808@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 3f8d74a8c70dd416d0a3a1dbcb9bb89f Subject: Re: ULF: Finally 100 mA on 2.97 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9741 Hi Paul, Am 07.12.2016 14:50, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > About 1uW should give some hint in a hour and very significant > peak on an 8 hour spectrum. I run a constant carrier from 13:30...7:00 UTC. On 7 UTC i will start an EbNaut transmission for my local test: 5 chars 8K19A 80s. This takes half a day about... I also added a few plots and spectrograms to follow the transmission from the tree http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html Also you can check the antenna current plot to get some more information: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/VLF/TX.png BTW i put 5x 7 Ah accus there and am recording at 24 kS/s stereo to a 32 GB USB stick. The recording hast started about 15 UTC and i will drive there (a trip of 2x 110 km!) again sunday morning to bring it back. Poor accus, have to do that job below 0 C. So i have more than 3 day time to run various transmission tests.. I'm plotting the signal level and noise level, visible on the grabber. At night, the signal becomes about 10 dB stronger while the noise increases maybe 3 dB. The antenna current is super stable however. What could the reason be? Propagation? I wouldn't assume that. I do not see this effect on 6470 Hz. Update from 23:20 UTC: I found that the time server program has crashed! :-( And it is an old PC so there are glitches from time to time. Probably this is another reason why you don't see the faintest signal :-( My grabber plots look quite good anyway, so maybe the problem hasn't been so dramatic. Now i'm watching the phase! And since 23:23 UTC it should be stable. This may also explain the lower SNR in daylight, maybe it just has to do with the number of phase jumps in one FFT :-( A few things don't run as unproblematic as i would like but at least a signal is on the air... I will sort out all problems by time... > > You made a long transmission with 30mA, from 2016-06-26_13:00 > to 2016-07-31_08:00, 34.79 days. No trace of the signal even > with a coherent daily stacking gain of 15.4dB. Wait 58 says > 0.036 fT for your ~100nW, which should have been visible in > one day, say 8 hours. > > So something is not adding up. Maybe ERP is much lower > than estimated, or the propagation near the mode 2 cut-off > frequency is more attenuated or suffering a variable phase > due to dispersion. We will find that out! That's the interesting thing on this new land. And i can rise the power by another 8 dB. But later... 73, Stefan