Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mailn.lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id uB4E3FrY004667 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 15:03:16 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cDXKh-0003R2-M5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 13:59:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cDXKg-0003Qt-Qu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 13:59:58 +0000 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cDXKe-0003Yj-2m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 13:59:57 +0000 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44BA2207AD for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:59:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3tWqJk2ZNFz103v for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:59:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <58442155.6020001@posteo.de> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 14:59:49 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <38F665123BD04C58B08CF78A0AABB747@malcoHP> <5842FA52.7080604@posteo.de> <6E85CA2FD058424EA9C210FA5A46324B@PCPMF>,<58431CA1.40809@vsas.de> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D87F120@servigilant.vigilant.local> <1A0F9D0A9AA34763A3E667502E0030D5@SV8CS> <556FFEC1688540ABA4FC025EF28020F2@PCPMF> In-Reply-To: <556FFEC1688540ABA4FC025EF28020F2@PCPMF> X-Scan-Signature: bb953ecadee360a40f72202c1637b86b Subject: Re: LF: De F6CNI : CW QSO PARTY report Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030609070408070407010102" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9693 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030609070408070407010102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Andy, Did you have a bad day again, hm? Something above S9 seems to trigger your destructive writing (= action). We already know that from you. My answer (= *re*-action) may help you to find the right way. How many stations did you hear, 16. That's fine. How many did you _work_: *0*! What a bad result Andy! I heared 15 stations and worked *14* of them (9H1ES seemed to have a problem with his TRX somehow). And think about your old friend Jeff F6BWO. It would have just fit into his 'politeness' to get a call from his old friend F6CNI. But nothing! That seems to be quite frustrating, hearing soo many stations and beeing unable to work one of them. Could this eventually be a reason why you throw your frustration against people keeping the band alive? You can do this very well, we know it from the last years. Talking about ham spirit and staying passively in the background and writing complaints against high-power stations. For what?? But what about doing something constructive? I have an idea: You take your time and energy to build (build! not buy!) a real PA and a real antenna (the XYL may help and carefully bury the ground wires during that time), then you come in the situation to work say 50% of the stations you can hear. That consideration agrees with the 'politeness' of everyone you heared on the band. These people were on air because they were interested in QSOs! And then think about your QRP stuff. Its fine to play with it in WSPR etc. But CW would be _dead_ on MF if anyone runs 20 mW. And you know that. And then: "The strongest and best report 599+ to EA5DOM". What a cheap trick. Never ever Andy! But i can see what you are trying: You think that i want to be the strongest station and you think that you can frustrate me by saying that EA5DOM was the strongest station. This is the actual aim of this statement. It's so simple to discover, i'm getting tired. Let me tell you, i just want to make the best out of the possibilities i have for amateur radio. If EA5DOM is stronger, then i'm happy for him and for the active people and those who like to receive signals from far away, like FR5ZX! And i would (did) help Luis to improve his system(s) if he asks me. You also know that. I try what i can do not to reply to any of your complaints from now on, but sometimes it is hard to stay in the background, honnnestly 73, Stefan PS: If you can hear 16 stations with your super ears and i was working 14 stations (heared 15), then there can't be many stations calling me that i didn't hear or work during the evening, right? Am 04.12.2016 09:54, schrieb F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB: > HI all. > For info, my short report about the CW QSO PARTY. I was only QRV > receiving CW, no transmitting. I was listening during 2 periods, each > of about 1 hour 1/2 long. > RX FT1000MP full options (a fantastic CW RX on LF/MF) and as RX > antenna a vertical tube 9.5 m high, base loaded with a L circuit : > serial 1.1 mH coil and 4700 pF capacitor in parallel coaxial side. > The window 472 – 475 kHz band was QRN quiet, but high QRM due to the > Poland NDB and his 2 x side AF modulations, which is coming here 589. > The segment 474.3 to 475.4 kHz is very clear and for me the best > choice for CW, but nobody was using it... The segment 472 – 472.7 is > also clear but that is a pity to heard some high power station staying > long time on the QRG and calling and calling many and many CQ without > having the slightest consideration or the politeness for the others. > I heard 16 stations in 7 DXCC countries. > The first QSO I heard was DJ6CB / G3YXM at 1657 TU. > The strongest and best report 599+ to EA5DOM calling some CQ beginning > at 1822 TU. Some stations was calling him but no QSO. Later he worked > DK7FC. > Also strong 599 report to DK7FC who had also at times some problems to > copy QRP station calling him. > I did not copy my old friend Jeff F6BWO, because I was not listenint > at his QRV time. > 73 @++ Andy. --------------030609070408070407010102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Andy,

Did you have a bad day again, hm? Something above S9 seems to trigger your destructive writing (= action). We already know that from you. My answer (= re-action) may help you to find the right way.

How many stations did you hear, 16. That's fine. How many did you work: 0! What a bad result Andy!
I heared 15 stations and worked 14 of them (9H1ES seemed to have a problem with his TRX somehow).

And think about your old friend Jeff F6BWO. It would have just fit into his 'politeness' to get a call from his old friend F6CNI. But nothing!

That seems to be quite frustrating, hearing soo many stations and beeing unable to work one of them. Could this eventually be a reason why you throw your frustration against people keeping the band alive? You can do this very well, we know it from the last years. Talking about ham spirit and staying passively in the background and writing complaints against high-power stations. For what??

But what about doing something constructive? I have an idea: You take your time and energy to build (build! not buy!) a real PA and a real antenna (the XYL may help and carefully bury the ground wires during that time), then you come in the situation to work say 50% of the stations you can hear. That consideration agrees with the 'politeness' of everyone you heared on the band. These people were on air because they were interested in QSOs!
And then think about your QRP stuff. Its fine to play with it in WSPR etc. But CW would be dead on MF if anyone runs 20 mW. And you know that.

And then: "The strongest and best report 599+ to EA5DOM". What a cheap trick. Never ever Andy! But i can see what you are trying: You think that i want to be the strongest station and you think that you can frustrate me by saying that EA5DOM was the strongest station. This is the actual aim of this statement. It's so simple to discover, i'm getting tired.

Let me tell you, i just want to make the best out of the possibilities i have for amateur radio. If EA5DOM is stronger, then i'm happy for him and for the active people and those who like to receive signals from far away, like FR5ZX! And i would (did) help Luis to improve his system(s) if he asks me. You also know that.

I try what i can do not to reply to any of your complaints from now on, but sometimes it is hard to stay in the background, honnnestly

73, Stefan

PS: If you can hear 16 stations with your super ears and i was working 14 stations (heared 15), then there can't be many stations calling me that i didn't hear or work during the evening, right?




Am 04.12.2016 09:54, schrieb F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB:
 
HI all.
 
For info, my short report about the CW QSO PARTY. I was only QRV receiving CW, no transmitting. I was listening during 2 periods, each of about 1 hour 1/2 long.
 
RX FT1000MP full options (a fantastic CW RX on LF/MF) and as RX antenna a vertical tube 9.5 m high, base loaded with a L circuit : serial 1.1 mH coil and 4700 pF capacitor in parallel coaxial side.
 
The window 472 – 475 kHz band was QRN quiet, but high QRM due to the Poland NDB and his 2 x side AF modulations, which is coming here 589. The segment 474.3 to 475.4 kHz is very clear and for me the best choice for CW, but nobody was using it... The segment 472 – 472.7 is also clear but that is a pity to heard some high power station staying long time on the QRG and calling and calling many and many CQ without having the slightest consideration or the politeness for the others.
 
I heard 16 stations in 7 DXCC countries.
 
The first QSO I heard was DJ6CB / G3YXM at 1657 TU.
 
The strongest and best report 599+ to EA5DOM calling some CQ beginning at 1822 TU. Some stations was calling him but no QSO. Later he worked DK7FC.
 
Also strong 599 report to DK7FC who had also at times some problems to copy QRP station calling him.
 
I did not copy my old friend Jeff F6BWO, because I was not listenint at his QRV time.
 
73 @++ Andy.
 
 
 
 
 
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