Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mailn.lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id uB5EUKSF008811 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 15:30:21 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cDuE1-0007M2-H6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 14:26:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cDuE0-0007Lt-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 14:26:36 +0000 Received: from smtp1web.tin.it ([212.216.176.195]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cDuDt-0007DF-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 14:26:34 +0000 Received: from feu11 (10.192.64.21) by smtp1web.tin.it (8.6.060.43) id 581B54FF009E630C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 15:26:26 +0100 Received: from (87.9.217.50) by wmlighttin.pc.tim.it; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 15:26:26 +0100 Message-ID: <158cf60ef68.marcocadeddu@tin.it> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 15:26:26 +0100 (CET) From: "marcocadeddu@tin.it" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 87.9.217.50 X-Scan-Signature: 4d97240a623a26620214cd27feaa9f71 Subject: R: LF: RE: Finally 100 mA on 2.97 kHz Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9720 impressive! :-) congrats Stefan, really a nice job and a beautiful sunny day in HD! hope to be able to detect soon the sparks from here ;-) were is Mr. Frankestein hidden? :-))) keep on Stefan Marco IK1HSS ----Messaggio originale---- Da: luis@vigilant.es Data: 5-dic-2016 11.23 A: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Ogg: LF: RE: Finally 100 mA on 2.97 kHz Congratulations for this great step ahead Stefan !!! :-) >From your hard work and impressive pictures it is quite clear that ULF is veeeeeery hard compared to LF/MF and every Hz down there becomes harder and harder Amazing work and beautiful construction. My best wishes for the results in your tests Please keep posting. May be not many will said anything but we are all watching ....mouth wide open ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM ________________________________ De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner- rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de DK7FC Enviado el: domingo, 04 de diciembre de 2016 23:15 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: ULF: Finally 100 mA on 2.97 kHz ULF, It was a clear, cold and sunny day again and finally i was testing the new large 2.97 kHz coil on the roof: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/ULF/20161204_153126.jpg Not a good idea on MF or LF, but on ULF is can be a good idea to put a resistor in series to the coil. I put 500 Ohm in series. This helps to attenuate eventual HV transients, makes the resonance curve a bit flatter, so the peak is easier to hold. 500 Ohm and 0.1 A, that just a loss of 5W, quite affordable. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/ULF/20161204_153113.jpg Unfortunetely i found that the actual resonance region is adjustable from 2993...3130 Hz. So the inductance is still to low :-( I've been quite sure that my antenna replacement capacity for resonance tests in the shack has the right value. So maybe other effects like an additional capacitive load by the things standing arround in the shack? Or a different behaviour of the residual antenna + frozen ground capacity on 2970 Hz? At least it was possible to get 100 mA anyway, just by applying some more voltage to the antenna. The PA is now running at 20V and less than 1A, most of that are PA- and transformer losses. Anyway i have 12 kV on the antenna! That's ULF! I was planning to bring the coil down to the shack anyway, after the 65km experiment which will start in a few days i think. Then i can add more turns to come closer to 2970 Hz. With 70 uOhm radiation resistance the resulting ERP is now entering the microwatt range: 1.2 uW on the 101km band. A stable carrier at 100 mA was sent from 12:50 UTC to 14:24 UTC. I tried to measure the antenna current with a true rms digital multimeter, shielded by aluminium foil, measuring on high potential. But the measurement was wrong anyway. The permanent installed analog amperemeter and SpecLab gave a correct measurement. Tomorrow i will check the antenna current measurement on high potential with a calibrated analog amperemeter. For the 65km experiment i want to transmit some DFCW-12000 again as well as an EbNaut message. The RX site will be in JN39VH :-) 73, Stefan