Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uASAvQ27005313 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:57:26 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cBJYT-0002F8-Rm for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:53:01 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cBJYT-0002Ez-Dc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:53:01 +0000 Received: from mail-wj0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c01::232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cBJYQ-0000NC-BY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:53:00 +0000 Received: by mail-wj0-x232.google.com with SMTP id xy5so112002962wjc.0 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:52:58 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=3RVUShTacPn9n2iJV+j2+OzNHc+WUR/AG902psTYG+w=; b=akrdPTDsIY8sXiChk5yvShafBzU6rMo+sQqcZZ1ME7f9UHIzw09hjSLDcU0AzCT0Pl 02BgNUpDkLpBSPOZJWeEBM2Dl53hSNjqWd2EVDr7nRDt/dqt7ZTm2rC5uwf/Lin7+iCR ExG+33MYyjvTH9TNV04V3w8c/olw68esjdKd8Y8ptzDIGMMJZEBJGTJWNnXEVQ5eZtwe 063dSac7JMC7AJqFfw2uB1BLH0d7aEqfSaSAZs21UkhkL86NdWYRqQK+attbiZYTVVlO qJAxKxjzVZ+eY11C4bZ/HhMXTBBm6/4ZylPrQbPv2o1ZlsykMjlEHx2Kseksy9lTHK9T 5nKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=3RVUShTacPn9n2iJV+j2+OzNHc+WUR/AG902psTYG+w=; b=Knkm/siONrf3UwTUuCYW0ZJkHyG23vAdRgjEiNST/YI0T87abQMJkxQwhJ4G84+q7d /I+IA4gV5pd5AQ0lf9cbRl3Zu5PrnpCm8P2SWL/Hk6cuGYc6vAlQ4qrRIAuxqLZOXQ5H CA1GVCjFj1i4HleCYZvyj4aHtXTMQxXpH4OPsZq0MB/ThyFFmoW7eOMqyU7pjx5Mre1w 3J29BzYmjkETrh8pBczeZQVxruzNktDgNdmU10VFHW+ThLjAsSf+pY596vGM/Q6ihvss oIP0OL66z8s3etDq9pGHUzvhZ2HIdTFROhPNWUNxs+m22TIcx1OI31zUjfJ/6OVStzVn P28A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC010Bam+BJsYIFG5/VQ3I7IRDWJP58cEtJYpwUDbY6lwWmbBMflIhg7piE5nw8o5mA== X-Received: by 10.194.172.42 with SMTP id az10mr18480324wjc.145.1480330377181; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([82.98.23.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r138sm28271517wme.9.2016.11.28.02.52.55 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:52:56 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: John Rabson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <6B2EB28C-A17D-484F-A20B-856BFAFCE4B4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:52:53 +0100 Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: References: <394829979.20161126101755@chriswilson.tv> <6B2EB28C-A17D-484F-A20B-856BFAFCE4B4@gmail.com> To: John Rabson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Scan-Signature: bde53fa3678f346afe39dd99e3e185db Subject: Re: LF: RFI noise at 144 kHz exactly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id uASAvQ27005313 Content-Length: 2747 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9592 Alan, Thank you for your suggestions regarding tracking down the QRM, but this morning the signal on 145 kHz is no longer there. What I have noticed is that there is now an RTTY signal on 147 kHz about the same strength here as longwave Radio 4. I shall continue monitoring while recommissioning my 136 kHz softrock. John F5VLF > On 27 Nov 2016, at 11:22, John Rabson wrote: > > I have just resumed monitoring 135 to 198 kHz and have noticed a fairly strong broad and constant signal on about 145 kHz which was not there last winter. It sounds rather like LORAN A (not C) but without the selective fading effects we used to get on 1.9 MHz. It appears to come from either north-east or south-west of my location in central Burgundy, but I have not yet managed to get a cross bearing. > > John F5VLF > >> On 26 Nov 2016, at 11:17, Chris Wilson wrote: >> >> 26 November 2016 >> >> >> I have been monitoring my noise on my receivers and the big issue is a >> constant, day and night, high level noise centred exactly on 144 kHz. >> Is this a frequency that is familiar to anyone? Googling it has only >> brought up comments of some 20kHz solar inverters talking to their >> control panels down the mains wiring at 144 kHz, with some chatter >> about inverters going noisy and blanking out their own talk back >> frequency. >> >> My next door but one neighbour has solar panels on his stable roof, >> but I don't THINK they have an accumulator bank, they just feed back >> into the national grid. we don't really get on too well so I am loathe >> to approach them unless I can be sure the noise is from there. >> >> There's also a huge, multi acre solar farm opened about 5 miles away. >> I would imagine some old geezer with noise near his beloved LF Ham >> band frequency would have little impact on its operation, so i hope >> it's not tat. Any ideas on what uses 144 kHz, and how to locate the >> source? >> >> Here's a screen shot of it as it is at the moment, but it doesn't >> change, day or night, and its amplitiude stays pretty constant, no >> turning on and off I have ever seen. My RX is on my TX aerial at the >> moment. >> >> http://www.chriswilson.tv/noise.jpg >> >> Thanks >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best regards, >> Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv >> >> My part time LF grabber is at >> http://www.chriswilson.tv/grabber.html >> >> > > john.rabson07@gmail.com > > Researching history of RABSON, BLACKSHAW, GAUNTLETT, VERLANDER and ROBSONNE > > > > john.rabson07@gmail.com Researching history of RABSON, BLACKSHAW, GAUNTLETT, VERLANDER and ROBSONNE