Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uASBp9fX005541 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:51:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cBKOW-0002hA-Ll for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:46:48 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cBKOW-0002h1-2v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:46:48 +0000 Received: from rgout0603.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.130] helo=rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cBKOS-0000jh-Qx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:46:46 +0000 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.178.51.208 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=12/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.11.28.110917:17:12.455,ip=,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, LINK_TO_IMAGE, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_TV, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_3000_3999, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, __MIME_TEXT_P, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE Received: from gnat (86.178.51.208) by rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (9.0.019.07.01-1) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 581B47C0027268AB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:46:39 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1480333604; bh=CpWLex0sDL49EhRFKV5DcX6LE+373bjPfI4IdLBFjHI=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=iGwZNLj/bx3IVDFrTtbrovZrET2cmun64K/bCvTZ0oddqvk0TMrvTZVlM16ARRO5q9gtsLRlNDNK6m0m7LDjw8hnz972uI5Rt07Fz06MY++Cs5ehTTgGcpPNT8zCbrhhkIiAkzvfcwjcPccbg5a4ljkwLIr3ilhVO27sExnlcWc= Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <394829979.20161126101755@chriswilson.tv> <6B2EB28C-A17D-484F-A20B-856BFAFCE4B4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 11:44:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: ad8e5dd63f7497fd9d71d15044db2e2b Subject: Re: LF: RFI noise at 144 kHz exactly Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 3211 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9596 Hi John yes there are Mil stations that come up sporadically with RTTY or GMSK. They are fairly narrow < 100Hz but the splurge that Chris reported seemed much wider....more like interference than a genuine signal. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rabson" To: "John Rabson" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 10:52 AM Subject: Re: LF: RFI noise at 144 kHz exactly Alan, Thank you for your suggestions regarding tracking down the QRM, but this morning the signal on 145 kHz is no longer there. What I have noticed is that there is now an RTTY signal on 147 kHz about the same strength here as longwave Radio 4. I shall continue monitoring while recommissioning my 136 kHz softrock. John F5VLF > On 27 Nov 2016, at 11:22, John Rabson wrote: > > I have just resumed monitoring 135 to 198 kHz and have noticed a fairly > strong broad and constant signal on about 145 kHz which was not there last > winter. It sounds rather like LORAN A (not C) but without the selective > fading effects we used to get on 1.9 MHz. It appears to come from either > north-east or south-west of my location in central Burgundy, but I have > not yet managed to get a cross bearing. > > John F5VLF > >> On 26 Nov 2016, at 11:17, Chris Wilson wrote: >> >> 26 November 2016 >> >> >> I have been monitoring my noise on my receivers and the big issue is a >> constant, day and night, high level noise centred exactly on 144 kHz. >> Is this a frequency that is familiar to anyone? Googling it has only >> brought up comments of some 20kHz solar inverters talking to their >> control panels down the mains wiring at 144 kHz, with some chatter >> about inverters going noisy and blanking out their own talk back >> frequency. >> >> My next door but one neighbour has solar panels on his stable roof, >> but I don't THINK they have an accumulator bank, they just feed back >> into the national grid. we don't really get on too well so I am loathe >> to approach them unless I can be sure the noise is from there. >> >> There's also a huge, multi acre solar farm opened about 5 miles away. >> I would imagine some old geezer with noise near his beloved LF Ham >> band frequency would have little impact on its operation, so i hope >> it's not tat. Any ideas on what uses 144 kHz, and how to locate the >> source? >> >> Here's a screen shot of it as it is at the moment, but it doesn't >> change, day or night, and its amplitiude stays pretty constant, no >> turning on and off I have ever seen. My RX is on my TX aerial at the >> moment. >> >> http://www.chriswilson.tv/noise.jpg >> >> Thanks >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best regards, >> Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv >> >> My part time LF grabber is at >> http://www.chriswilson.tv/grabber.html >> >> > > john.rabson07@gmail.com > > Researching history of RABSON, BLACKSHAW, GAUNTLETT, VERLANDER and > ROBSONNE > > > > john.rabson07@gmail.com Researching history of RABSON, BLACKSHAW, GAUNTLETT, VERLANDER and ROBSONNE