Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uAQAduGn000327 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:39:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cAaLg-0003xA-Qf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:36:48 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cAaLg-0003x1-GB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:36:48 +0000 Received: from smtp-out-5.talktalk.net ([62.24.135.69]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cAaLd-00089T-VQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:36:47 +0000 Received: from malcoHP ([79.69.139.43]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id AaLcc3CtMHGLwAaLdcvQV0; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:36:45 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=talktalk.net Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=talktalk.net; s=1605; t=1480156605; bh=atomZHNCY3HoUxMPQM8O9PqSJTSSgGDiAL/o+0mSR0o=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date; b=KRJhEXoFCypNoAh89R2+uBCjfj18mrhwVIzQlaiAoGNNjFQ8itELriTmh6emXPkea NdFF3svejCf6FxCMVkI+UHT4Gnnql8uCi1dqO0sJNinIHXNyct7ysx1+MAAEZOzaY1 CRNMWlhjnD9YioA2kpge81A6j2UPXLV9L46nWZUs= X-Originating-IP: [79.69.139.43] X-Spam: 0 X-OAuthority: v=2.2 cv=dsCZMBo4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xewto85gXl5KEUA5IHIffg==:117 a=xewto85gXl5KEUA5IHIffg==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=ZdL_PQd5BTNWDQ8HrrQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=slCku8JSH3TyizEDQ3pD:22 Message-ID: From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <635074543.20161125135600@chriswilson.tv> In-Reply-To: <635074543.20161125135600@chriswilson.tv> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:35:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPHcd2uYH7r8jdXY7nEESc9ejC/Aq9LH+qMXypCy68mK8m9bwHxmAP0sx12YUn3aZDVz32l+YFeLgYlKSqELO9LH8Qix2YH9oXCgaDqeZ0Piuts88nh+ b1PId3VwrSxMaCWskRDaqQSIy6xjzTYKcZB3JanGWEbpE2jk1mZdXVCy X-Scan-Signature: 9ca91679b330d65f05d707c2d2b164fe Subject: Re: LF: H Bridge power MOSFET based amps question Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 2274 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9557 Chris The Decca 5501 amp modules use a H bridge class D configuration followed by a series resonant PA circuit and this is probably one of the most reliable amplifiers about. Use suitable rated FET'S to give the desired RF output. Also the protection cct used avoids disaster in the event of an antenna failure short/open cct, I have built lots of class D 1Kw push pull amps over the years for LF/MF but they are vunerable to damage with load variations whereas the Decca bridge amps survive. I never had a failure with the Decca, and have been using them for many years. Another approach which is worth a consideration is the class E amp single ended, these are very reliable and avoids the crossover switching problems with the push pull system. Setting up procedure is critical but there after very stable, Hope these observations help you de mal/g3kev -----Original Message----- From: Chris Wilson Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 1:56 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: H Bridge power MOSFET based amps question 25 November 2016 I have built a 1kW Class D amp for none linear digital transmissions around 136kHz. My Dave Pick designed amp uses four MOSFETS, two in parallel each side driven by a dedicated driver chip. I see the odd LF amp design using what's described as a H Bridge MOSFET array. The one I most recall most, by Andy Talbot used rectified 240 volt single phase mains to run it. My question is why use an H Bridge rather than paralleling more MOSFETS in what to me is a more conventional format? Does it overcome voltage or current limitations? Is it due to adding more capacitance with paralleled devices? Or does it allow a linear amp to be built? I realize a meaningful reply might be quite lengthy, so I assure you I have Googled it, but most stuff related to in the articles is industrial motor control. Secondly, in a Class D none linear amp, how is the gate resistor value chosen, and is there ever a case for not using one at all? Thirdly, am I alone in thinking the terms Drain and Source seem back to front and the names would intuitively be reversed so a Drain was called a Source and vice versa? :) Thanks. 2E0ILY -- Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv