Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uAKDmIpc002046 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 14:48:18 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1c8SQZ-0004mF-Mr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:45:03 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1c8SQZ-0004m6-Ap for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:45:03 +0000 Received: from rgout0806.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.153]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c8SQW-0001c8-NE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:45:02 +0000 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.191.81.210 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: c.ashby435@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=8/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.11.20.130016:17:8.129,ip=,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, FROM_NAME_ONE_WORD, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __URI_NO_WWW, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, __MIME_TEXT_P, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (86.191.81.210) by rgout08.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (9.0.019.07.01-1) (authenticated as c.ashby435@btinternet.com) id 581B4AB301C092F5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:44:59 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1479649500; bh=+/cDtFWK2X8ncwA4qFFZ+pJ4FdlgebAs8rE8Xa9uAFI=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=TWRdjlVKA70aHZCh/Zq1XP1YuuYVRRrWOJVFXLKqGd9wWz9az6AsSURsitpWD8N2F4DYT4PG7HdtYN9PLHq/6Nxeh5kKmT7/37erSTg8yyj8xKVnWxUGVbzzCa6vUDyg1TXFPPUods4F9EAkh51Oyu+Lk+8+UclxXJWbtKqIszc= Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <755926527.854934.1479645649028.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <755926527.854934.1479645649028@mail.yahoo.com> <42728F28A2CB4D0688619EA9AA5BA85A@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 13:44:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: 118b9e608370528226a3c3b3aedcdda0 Subject: Re: LF: bounce test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 2670 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9498 Thanks Alan. Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 PM Subject: Re: LF: bounce test > Hi Chris ....yes you should I do....mostly though some end up in my ISP > mail spam folder. > However some ISPs regard all mails from self to self as spam . > > If you post to the group you will usually get a bounce message from > "bounce.io" telling you it could not deliver to g3xzx, and including a > gratuitous advert. it is a way they seek to make money out of this without > any agreement. They state that the web-host can get a cut of the > advertising revenue, but they make no attempt to contact the web host > before enabling the interception. I suppose we ought to complain of abuse > (if I knew who to complain to.....feel free if you do know) Unfortunately > they only way these could be stopped is to unsub the address but without > admin access we cant do that and the domain ....an old rsgb one.....is no > longer active. So if you change addresses PLEASE unsub the old one before > it expires and rejoin with the new one. Fortunaely we have a stable > membership or we would be flooded with this rubbish > > Blacksheep soldiers on now providing service for in excess of 20 years to > LFers. > > Alan > G3NYK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: LF: bounce test > > >> Is this something new? I have always, for years, got a copy of my own >> messages back. >> Chris, G4AYT. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M0FMT" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:40 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: bounce test >> >> >>> Tnx fer info but bounce backs are the norm now with black-sheep.... :-( >>> >>> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT GQRP#15097.in IO91UX >>> >>> On Sun, 20/11/16, Alan Melia wrote: >>> >>> Subject: LF: bounce test >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2016, 12:28 >>> >>> Just to get an example of the >>> bounce.io response. >>> >>> Please note these responses do not suggest your message has >>> not been >>> accepted, they show that one members address, now obselete, >>> cannot be >>> delivered to. They are only sent to the originator but are a >>> pain. The owner >>> of bounce.io has been advised he does not have authority to >>> intercept these >>> emails and has been requested to desist.....with no reply of >>> course. >>> >>> Alan >>> G3NYK >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >