Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uARAR0lm001726 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:27:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cAwbs-0007pG-Ao for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:23:00 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cAwbr-0007p7-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:22:59 +0000 Received: from mail-wj0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c01::236]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cAwbm-00040i-OC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:22:58 +0000 Received: by mail-wj0-x236.google.com with SMTP id xy5so92058119wjc.0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:22:53 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ee8iPVNu9dkepE0VBPZAzylw7isDwnXiXECIQLqpev4=; b=uQhzrbhlbEe9b+FrfBf4HlMUPGgsg/lkur6GHE/wtB5ST/o4yF3vylSLaKEyrzB/nC amItjrtudwFGP9DCPmhDONAJR1TsFXlQrq7XzjxuWgCCN7nZXPqN9jt3kWmI64Rr5I4v vb8e5zZb4xGOY5SlQ3QLKfOOfzIqTAuHEKBmasTaycGte4SpIWRgR1C9xvBo1pnwENka jymYqxGjXFjvZIEYjSK/JSfkHAj5N21iYdBSBuUNyXUOrF6JMGUT+JmyiX8Mdkd8qv43 pmOD2kj+GlsZeZgZM1nzZGDCxsMTrrs3EWMjcmt9kYAbzMaEszh9FTcv+yynCFFP+91a yGAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ee8iPVNu9dkepE0VBPZAzylw7isDwnXiXECIQLqpev4=; b=SB5uWvHFRsB2NIk2dV6Axxd1MiQa8QauapBcSPuLixi97vcemt3QZ81LOBtJdGTTgH igYda+v1ony3UjM/YEnNjFXwB9ifH0qpuk6/UDDCXnxqdNIULdEUcvlHt7eNQZmNle+U O6ipKWvhZBQSa8n1aWJ8P+bwZYAwsriZ+ovM/QNz6E4xFUUTgeVc3pwEJheDCk08Xopb fY5Ww9Fn5n0vvP/bLoaSjb/gwW35AU7HtKZ9xVeLf0+PaamYujeuiK4kQYUbf7Ss4E/z ULmRQ4P5T9pQSmn6ooDM4zCjqL8Q8h0dGnjlgnAiphDfBTIkXyjO50TsnK1a/tOzInuM Nmpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01S1nI8/wAGSSTLpcaKaBpzRtJtx6dVE/EfpMQw1b73tItvDanRjwWMbvKDJTu4/w== X-Received: by 10.194.90.231 with SMTP id bz7mr13841334wjb.35.1480242171592; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([82.98.23.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e188sm22917015wma.21.2016.11.27.02.22.50 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:22:50 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: John Rabson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <394829979.20161126101755@chriswilson.tv> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:22:48 +0100 Message-Id: <6B2EB28C-A17D-484F-A20B-856BFAFCE4B4@gmail.com> References: <394829979.20161126101755@chriswilson.tv> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Scan-Signature: 8556389a5ea14fbbf9b9d801ab70c592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: LF: RFI noise at 144 kHz exactly X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by paranoid.lipkowski.org id uARAR0lm001726 Content-Length: 2166 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9573 I have just resumed monitoring 135 to 198 kHz and have noticed a fairly strong broad and constant signal on about 145 kHz which was not there last winter. It sounds rather like LORAN A (not C) but without the selective fading effects we used to get on 1.9 MHz. It appears to come from either north-east or south-west of my location in central Burgundy, but I have not yet managed to get a cross bearing. John F5VLF > On 26 Nov 2016, at 11:17, Chris Wilson wrote: > > 26 November 2016 > > > I have been monitoring my noise on my receivers and the big issue is a > constant, day and night, high level noise centred exactly on 144 kHz. > Is this a frequency that is familiar to anyone? Googling it has only > brought up comments of some 20kHz solar inverters talking to their > control panels down the mains wiring at 144 kHz, with some chatter > about inverters going noisy and blanking out their own talk back > frequency. > > My next door but one neighbour has solar panels on his stable roof, > but I don't THINK they have an accumulator bank, they just feed back > into the national grid. we don't really get on too well so I am loathe > to approach them unless I can be sure the noise is from there. > > There's also a huge, multi acre solar farm opened about 5 miles away. > I would imagine some old geezer with noise near his beloved LF Ham > band frequency would have little impact on its operation, so i hope > it's not tat. Any ideas on what uses 144 kHz, and how to locate the > source? > > Here's a screen shot of it as it is at the moment, but it doesn't > change, day or night, and its amplitiude stays pretty constant, no > turning on and off I have ever seen. My RX is on my TX aerial at the > moment. > > http://www.chriswilson.tv/noise.jpg > > Thanks > > > -- > > > Best regards, > Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv > > My part time LF grabber is at > http://www.chriswilson.tv/grabber.html > > john.rabson07@gmail.com Researching history of RABSON, BLACKSHAW, GAUNTLETT, VERLANDER and ROBSONNE