Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id uAHIObPY029867 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 19:24:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1c7RIS-0005Of-RC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:20:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1c7RIS-0005OW-B5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:20:28 +0000 Received: from porthos.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c7RIP-0000ni-S9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:20:27 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=abelian.org Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=abelian.org ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Xsi7ivHKf1ANs6HJGDGE2MUshTKIxyNq0FGR5f1VemQ=; b=eAp1oUnR4nusDJZR7ognoD3h85 Gu+SMIiUaU5xxuXYHhX3X1PSUrIHMAa3/FDR9SEmqWZaEXDYD26cudrVh/CWMPpvLZE7oxPMTs217 lpQBSX8HftyVcAi8067/LpgkD3RadiEQLjqBmizpL+wg5lnVeZamKNSHkFtKKEsL/F0I=; Received: from i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.52.83]:55198 helo=pn.abelian.org) by porthos.netcom.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c7RIP-00053a-77 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:20:25 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pn.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F817400417 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <154c32c4dba-373a-24653@webprd-m58.mail.aol.com> <581A4BC6.9030106@abelian.org> <581A541E.9050406@abelian.org> <581A8098.8050909@posteo.de> <581C3027.8050003@abelian.org> <581C8660.1070709@posteo.de> <581C90C7.5030809@abelian.org> <581C95BC.6010602@posteo.de> <581DA8E4.5010701@abelian.org> <581DB9C0.10602@posteo.de> <581DCF2E.5090902@abelian.org> <581F9797.9060709@abelian.org> <5824A47D.3060108@posteo.de> <58260EC4.70903@abelian.org> <58261368.60901@posteo.de> <58261772.3050508@abelian.org> <5826BF91.6070907@abelian.org> <5826DB6E.1060000@abelian.org> <58276523.4000204@abelian.org> <5829D9E1.2020801@posteo.de> <582A0BF2.5070101@abelian.org> <582AB6CD.5090603@abelian.org> <582B12B2.7080708@posteo.de> <582B3823.8090504@abelian.org> <582B4466.5070106@abelian.org> <582B6E8B.4090207@posteo.de> <117DEE4AF4DD44F59CB 455664AD7695B@gnat> <046701d23fb3$ab36d900$01a48b00$@comcast.net> <582C19D6.5080808@abelian.org> <582CA9F0.2040306@abelian.org> <582DEE31.2090909@posteo.de> From: Paul Nicholson Message-ID: <582DF4E8.4090203@abelian.org> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:20:24 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <582DEE31.2090909@posteo.de> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - porthos.netcom.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - abelian.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: porthos.netcom.co.uk: authenticated_id: catchall@abelian.org X-Authenticated-Sender: porthos.netcom.co.uk: catchall@abelian.org X-Scan-Signature: c9c533f07c530c146486ecf89a00ebb1 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 2269 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9487 Went to investigate why phase at Cumiana was all over the place and found a mistake. A pesky command line option which reported a relative phase instead of absolute. Also fixed a sign error which reverse all the phases. All results recalculated below. Each test is normalised by its RMS value before summing. S/N dB in 2500 Hz. Eb/N0 in dB. Todmorden 881.8 km ------------------ Daytime test Eb/N0 S/N Phase RMS 2016-11-11 3.9 -62.5 141.2 2.56 2016-11-12 4.9 -59.7 134.3 2.01 2016-11-13 8.5 -55.6 138.5 1.07 2016-11-14 3.5 -61.3 136.8 2.48 2016-11-15 1.1 -64.0 139.9 3.59 2016-11-16 5.0 -60.8 140.8 2.45 2016-11-17 3.4 -61.6 152.3 2.87 11th to 12th 7.5 -57.9 137.1 11th to 13th 9.6 -53.8 137.8 11th to 14th 10.4 -53.1 137.6 11th to 15th 10.7 -52.9 137.8 11th to 16th 11.8 -52.3 138.3 11th to 17th 11.8 -51.9 139.9 Nightime test Eb/N0 S/N Phase RMS 15th Nov -3.0 -67.8 106.5 5.09 no decode 16th Nov 0.0 -65.5 118.2 4.77 15th to 16th 1.8 -63.7 113.0 Todmorden night phase lags day by 26.9 degrees, about half the lag predicted by LWPC. Cumiana 507.3 km ---------------- Daytime test Eb/N0 S/N Phase RMS 2016-11-11 -1.7 -66.6 21.9 3.90 no decode 2016-11-12 -3.7 -68.6 41.3 4.32 no decode 2016-11-13 -7.2 -72.1 51.0 3.81 no decode 2016-11-14 -5.2 -70.0 39.2 4.28 no decode 2016-11-15 -5.5 -70.4 39.3 6.23 no decode 2016-11-16 -0.4 -65.3 31.4 4.78 no decode 2016-11-17 -2.3 -67.1 30.1 4.94 no decode 11th + 12th 0.8 -64.6 30.4 decoded 'TEST' 11th to 15th 2.9 -62.5 36.6 decoded 'TEST' 11th to 16th 4.6 -60.8 34.3 decoded 'TEST' 11th to 17th 4.9 -59.8 34.7 decoded 'TEST' Nightime test Eb/N0 S/N Phase RMS 2016-11-15 -5.0 -69.8 2.5 9.88 no decode 2016-11-16 -4.5 -69.3 5.1 9.06 no decode 15th + 16th -1.7 -66.6 3.8 no decode Cumiana night phase lags day by 30.9 degrees. We've reached a diminishing return for the daytime tests. Now another week would be needed to gain 3dB. -- Paul Nicholson --