Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9OKPW4o010819 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 22:25:32 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1byllY-000292-8U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:22:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.34] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1byllV-00028t-RR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:22:37 +0100 Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1byllS-0005SF-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:22:36 +0100 Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id c78so19554855wme.0 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 13:22:34 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wWTeMmYKLNkG5c6+qHFy6D3oFPaRnPx46D0wJtbMa+M=; b=c6bDVrkiV7F4ZFNs/6aic/x52EcOfxai4iZIVNmC5CBXYdg5//NO21ztTQlVeEa+0f moPwGin5+fa2hooIkR28DnX7tuGRs3Su7RHUOkTwzPGwHe1mkD4BwjqkvMn3JPOgGLl7 S8xDo7jmrik5wdGq0Zy+Q6HJNciJc8e6XJ2hynOmsyWKrdYfo9KtqXGp9FZXMn2c906E wfWHuqZp2PLBFF4lDvMiLpS/n4EojQUVJyPgaRicmvJNNVmD1yCc316djjq4FN0NF+ak WX9RQODS3CkjCzxhK0uMgeenm4Szo/G/XgTQnkrmocA0WcL7PL5edR9g9WFLfBv/CG7F 0AYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wWTeMmYKLNkG5c6+qHFy6D3oFPaRnPx46D0wJtbMa+M=; b=KYzmzJLbY3Fa2kr5nlQ1Q4nFEruL+MQ2TF0STwp8TNkCjgwf9ugMBoArmq0UJMHJj0 +kFUbmlRuyS+mE4r/LbCu9B0y5u5qnhPe2la3oXX8jQNoOGEjaTr1lkXWEDXbPKHf/52 FgXtqK7F74vhKomh17QkL38gDQMVYDJLgh5KUY0HbDGirbVjrmgVuOgtpO3s3UwhtCQ9 mbKCeZvIMtqy2y7/zuPIY9yQKEfpUSZkfGGmVeq2K5kOHwShxxyzI/ur18UNPWYuK6iq fuuMmcZYXXDPvuhYVhjs0gjIV2RDbGUHyVZUSnJH+0iCIsRvjZjpt0rcLEOrBVG06d/U Zlnw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvf3r1YLRqYCXueZjIH9h9w1SIREL1rRM/Fv/ybt9GVJgejQbNkF264VgXzbE0GYMOEAHSOZk4x/jCn6Cw== X-Received: by 10.28.188.87 with SMTP id m84mr15902298wmf.69.1477340553261; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 13:22:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.209.74 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 13:22:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <157b3bf43d2-111e-bfa3@webprd-a11.mail.aol.com> <0f1b59cf-e10d-1daf-125b-ad4aca471a06@gmail.com> <580205DC.80508@posteo.de> <58020BE2.1020107@posteo.de> <289454467.20161015210855@chriswilson.tv> <5808C23D.6060006@posteo.de> <580CE812.40500@posteo.de> <580CEA96.2010200@posteo.de> <4e343fa907bf9f2652ce9f25fe56d62a@smtp.hushmail.com> <580E12A9.9070309@posteo.de> <026a01d22e2e$883c9250$98b5b6f0$@comcast.net> From: Andy Talbot Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:22:32 +0100 Message-ID: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: 75bd9e83b9a4dd6aff3296cebc5bb885 Subject: Re: LF: Idiot's guide to receiving Ebnaut? - Tutorial part2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b0bfae3b76c053fa22600 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 2738 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9198 --001a114b0bfae3b76c053fa22600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Won't the sound card's input filter, the anti-alias filter, extend this pulse, however short it is, into something the sampling rate will always see? So there is no need to deliberately lenghen it. The only real advantage to doing so, perhaps, would be to increase the pulse energy within a one sample period leading to a hight amplitude in the capture. The 1 PPS from my HP-5061 is only 1us in width, but can still be detected on a soundcard stream at any sampling rate chosen. Andy G4JNT On 24 October 2016 at 21:07, Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher wrot= e: > Hello Jim, > > I still wonder why the sync pulses from the Thunderbolt E are so short - > you mentioned 10 us in your email, but what is the exact pulse length ? > With a slightly modified software (SL) it may be possible to use them as > they are.. if they are longer than a sample from the soundcard. > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > (not QRV on LF+MF unfortunately..) > --001a114b0bfae3b76c053fa22600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Won't the sound card's input filter, the anti-alia= s filter, extend this pulse, however short it is, into something the sampli= ng rate will always see?=C2=A0 So there is no need to deliberately lenghen = it. =C2=A0

The only real advantage to doing so, perhaps,= would be to increase the pulse energy within a one sample period leading t= o a hight amplitude in the capture.

The 1 PPS from= my HP-5061 is only 1us in width, but can still be detected on a soundcard = stream at any sampling rate chosen.

Andy =C2=A0G4J= NT


On 24 October 2016 at 21:07, Wolfgang B=C3=BCscher = <dl4yhf@freenet.d= e> wrote:
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Hello Jim,

I still wonder why the sync pulses from the Thunderbolt E are so short - you mentioned 10 us in your email, but what is the exact pulse length ? With a slightly modified software (SL) it may be possible to use them as they are.. if they are longer than a sample from the soundcard.

73,
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Wolf DL4YHF
=C2=A0 (not QRV on LF+MF unfortunately..)
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