Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9EMe01O008569 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2016 00:40:00 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bvB5p-0004em-OG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:36:45 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bvB5p-0004ed-8T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:36:45 +0100 Received: from rgout0802.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.149]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bvB5n-0000v7-6P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:36:44 +0100 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.178.51.135 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=15/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.10.14.220917:17:15.123,ip=,rules=__CSHC_RCVD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __TO_IN_SUBJECT, __MIME_TEXT_P2, __MIME_TEXT_H2, __ANY_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, LINK_TO_IMAGE, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __FRAUD_MONEY_DENOMINATION, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_LOC, SUPERLONG_LINE, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __MULTIPLE_URI_HTML, __HTML_AHREF_TAG, __HAS_HTML, HTML_TAG_NAME_RND_CAP, __HTML_TAG_DIV, __HTML_WITH_DOCTYPE, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_3000_MORE, BODY_SIZE_6000_6999, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_H1, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __URI_NS, __SXL_SIG_TIMEOUT[3e2cd05ebae946b7b5e5b5be567ea76f.sig.aus1.sophosxl.com], __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __OUTLOOK_MUA, TO_IN_SUBJECT, __MIME_TEXT_H, __MIME_TEXT_P, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS Received: from gnat (86.178.51.135) by rgout08.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (9.0.019.07.01-1) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 57F4EB3D02578ACC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:36:34 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1476484603; bh=Wk5lt7RdCE6SvfKkzaAwxsOxVofOk9dP0SB4VRsFdFQ=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=XWzF7pSsXvSIodcnRc2+JiGks380M7VeEGDHT76+HKcWrzlP92UAx0soSLEWKB1cwB9Jb6c+KwhGMQLo/gQrULODnH1wjR/jTu5Igu7j8+IglXAHjqEv0z6n9mIujoz+q+UPhyjhXQM/9AzaxF/kBHAM/M80xoEUS8YromiBBWc= Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <157c533a19a-3cd0-4faf@webprd-a75.mail.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:37:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: 13abe497adcf17a4e25c5e2a2ff79111 Subject: Re: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] MF: DJ0ABR -> JA3TVF in WSPR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01D22673.DCB9E2F0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 5953 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9086 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01D22673.DCB9E2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is interesting Markus. I did several years ago discus the = possibility of ICM at the time of a CME impact with Vaino OH2LX (an ICM = expert)......on the grounds of increased electron density due to = precipitation. Vaino did not suggest there was any evidence of = correlation. It needs more that one event to be sure and I have never = tried the experiment here because I did not seem to have a promising = path to monitor. It still looks as though it might be worth looking for. Alan=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] MF: DJ0ABR -> JA3TVF in WSPR Something strange happened on LF around the same time: Looking at the = WSPR spectrogram, I happened to notice a marked noise increase for about = eight minutes around 19:15 UT. It is visible as a purple strip on two = grabber screenshots:=20 http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/vlf_lf_icm_2013/test1610131915.jpg http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/vlf_lf_icm_2013/test1610131930.jpg The noise band was caused by an unusually intense Luxembourg effect, = with a pair of strong VLF stations (GQD and DHO) acting as a ionospheric = heaters, impressing their difference frequency onto the DCF39 carrier: 138.83 - (23.4 - 22.1) kHz =3D 137.53 kHz Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Roelof Bakker An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 14 Okt 2016 10:27 pm Betreff: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] MF: DJ0ABR -> JA3TVF in WSPR Hello Clemens, There certainly was an opening to Asia last night. At 19:28 UTC, I logged a NAVTEX station from Malaysia on 518 kHz=20 over a distance of 10.015 km. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01D22673.DCB9E2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
That is interesting Markus. I did = several years ago=20 discus the possibility of ICM at the time of a CME impact with Vaino = OH2LX (an=20 ICM expert)......on the grounds of increased electron density due to=20 precipitation. Vaino did not suggest there was any evidence of = correlation. It=20 needs more that one event to be sure and I have never tried the = experiment here=20 because I did not seem to have a promising path to monitor. It still = looks as=20 though it might be worth looking for.
 
Alan 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 = 10:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: = [rsgb_lf_group] MF:=20 DJ0ABR -> JA3TVF in WSPR

Something strange happened on LF around the same = time: Looking=20 at the WSPR spectrogram, I happened to notice a marked noise = increase for about eight minutes around 19:15 UT. It=20 is visible as a purple strip on two grabber screenshots: 
h= ttp://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/vlf_lf_icm_2013/test1610131915.jpg
h= ttp://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/vlf_lf_icm_2013/test1610131930.jpg

= The=20 noise band was caused by an unusually = intense Luxembourg=20 effect, with a pair of strong VLF stations (GQD and = DHO) acting as a=20 ionospheric heaters, impressing their difference frequency = onto the=20 DCF39 carrier:

138.83 - (23.4 - 22.1) kHz =3D  137.53=20 kHz

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Roelof=20 Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, = 14 Okt 2016=20 10:27 pm
Betreff: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] MF: DJ0ABR = ->=20 JA3TVF in WSPR

Hello = Clemens,
There certainly was an opening to Asia = last=20 night.
At 19:28 UTC, I logged a NAVTEX station from = Malaysia on=20 518 kHz
over a distance of 10.015 km.
73,
Roelof, pa0rdt


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