Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9BLF601020097 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 23:15:06 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bu4IP-0002EY-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:09:09 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bu4IP-0002EP-Jd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:09:09 +0100 Received: from rgout0305.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.211] helo=rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bu4IO-000211-5c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:09:08 +0100 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.190.86.133 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=13/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.10.11.204218:17:13.011,ip=,rules=__CSHC_RCVD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, LEO_OBFU_SUBJ_RE, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __INT_PROD_COMP, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_TV, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODY_SIZE_1700_1799, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES, __INT_PROD_X2, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE Received: from gnat (86.190.86.133) by rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (9.0.019.07.01-1) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 57F4D3B4016C9DC0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:09:06 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1476220148; bh=GQD5ggSFX9rTI+qMu0g17zA3eYfCyYU7ukxahOd/DbI=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=QMup2mACTGlk8MwQrbXIzGHklCJxRGl9L34UZwcLaXrgYRY0XgKooC4bqxk3iP2ymqAb15+JWWwoQIPj3hNrnpuBFknblwhj+U8uB1x3eIMKYfrIbWwOR21/QixXcTJFSBHx5xlccBQCo1bxOR+kJlGbkpq5W9So6T6ACtYKkkU= Message-ID: <96A364FD96384B12A5C11912AFBFE844@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <57FD3F9F.80409@lineone.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:09:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: 64437c466041e93ffedda7fb96b22b71 Subject: LF: Re: Audio link Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 1673 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9018 Hi Hugh they can create horrendous RFI if you are not careful. The ones used for TV distibution "may" be better......the good ones are notched at the amateur bands and being for digital levels dont use AGC. Alan G3NYK (who moonlights on the EMC committee) ----- Original Message ----- From: "LineOne" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:38 PM Subject: LF: Audio link > To avoid having laptop running in the shack, which occasionally produces > some QRM, I can send received audio from the shack to a desktop computer > in the house on a twisted telephone pair. This works but any wire > connection between shack and this desktop introduces some spurious signals > on 136khz even if I use an audio isolating transformer. > > I bought a cheap digital baby alarm, disconnected the microphone and > padded down the input to the sender's microphone pads including a > potentiometer to adjust the input. Audio seems to reach the house OK but I > think the automatic gain control in the sender has a strange effect with > some sort of attack time allowing the start of, say, an Opera signal to be > seen but not the whole of a pulse. The background noise does come up > slightly between signals also. Nevertheless I can hear the audio normally > and did send a decent Opera report for G3XDV this evening. WSPR doesn't > seem to decode at all but I will persevere tonight before abandoning the > project. Has anyone else tried these baby alarms nad managed to overcome > the agc? > > My next attempt is likely to be a 36kHz PWM laser link which will take > some time to build. > > 73, Hugh, M0DSZ >