Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u9UKxKWv009197 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:59:20 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1c0x99-0004ak-TM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 20:56:03 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1c0x99-0004ab-Ha for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 20:56:03 +0000 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([2001:748:100:40::2:5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c0x97-0000Xg-1q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 20:56:02 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.141] (helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1c0x94-000585-Ja for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:55:58 +0100 Received: from localhost ([::1]:56529 helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1c0x94-00074Q-Fi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:55:58 +0100 Received: from mx0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.10]:58084) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1c0x73-0005yl-2N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:53:53 +0100 Received: from x4d08639d.dyn.telefonica.de ([77.8.99.157]:59308 helo=[192.168.178.26]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1c0x72-0000WB-Pn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:53:53 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <157b3bf43d2-111e-bfa3@webprd-a11.mail.aol.com> <0f1b59cf-e10d-1daf-125b-ad4aca471a06@gmail.com> <580205DC.80508@posteo.de> <58020BE2.1020107@posteo.de> <289454467.20161015210855@chriswilson.tv> <5808C23D.6060006@posteo.de> <580CE812.40500@posteo.de> <580CEA96.2010200@posteo.de> <4e343fa907bf9f2652ce9f25fe56d62a@smtp.hushmail.com> <580E12A9.9070309@posteo.de> <58160F3F.2010600@abelian.org> <451a5b86-55e8-b677-a81a-b4e0065b07d4@freenet.de> <58165113.5050307@posteo.de> <04625f41-e9d8-a4e0-11ac-b53a36f7949c@freenet.de> <581659F2.9010100@posteo.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Wolfgang_B=c3=bcscher?= Message-ID: <6c90bd69-bba0-316d-af8d-b472a1e18e06@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:53:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <581659F2.9010100@posteo.de> X-Originated-At: 77.8.99.157!59308 X-Scan-Signature: 1708620d3ce65bee0beaaede7929769a Subject: Re: LF: Re: GPS pulse timing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Content-Length: 1635 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9312 Hello Stefan, 857 ns standard deviation in the 1-second pulse timing at 48 kHz sample rate isn't spectacularly good, but considering the fact that the pulses are sent over a 'lossy' Vorbis-compressed stream, it's not so bad. You could possibly do better by running Paul's vlfrx tools on the RasPi, and resample the data *there* (on the remote site) to exactly 48 kHz before sending them over the line. Possibly easier said than done (since vttime.c needs a differently shaped sync pulse), so before going that way you could check the GPS module by connecting if directly to the PC with a high-grade soundcard (like the E-MU 0202 or similar 'large boxes' where the oscillators are less affected by thermal drift than the miniature USB sticks). Oh well, time to get back to the projected PIC-based, GPS-synced OXCO with fast internal ADC and DSP. But the thing has neither WLAN nor Ethernet :o( but the hardware is dead cheap and consumes far less power than a Raspberry :o) 73, Wolf . Am 30.10.2016 um 21:37 schrieb DK7FC: > Hi Wolf, > > Am 30.10.2016 21:15, schrieb Wolfgang Büscher: >> Hi Stefan, >> >> No significant improvement if the soundcard really supports 96 kHz >> sampling or more, >> and if the standard deviation in the GPS-based pulses is already >> below 100 ns. > OK. >> That is displayed on the SR panel as 'StdDev60' (standard deviation >> in the recent 60 1-second pulses). > I know :-) > See the capture attached. This is the VLF stream from the tree. Could > it have to do with the vorbis stream? Or is it due to the module? The > module receives 7 satellites at the moment? > > 73, Stefan