Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u93BbhXt021291 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:37:43 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1br1VW-0000O4-1m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:34:06 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1br1VV-0000Nv-Gn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:34:05 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1br1VT-0004gG-IG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:34:04 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3A6420F09 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:34:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3sng141qjzz105n for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:33:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57F24224.9060202@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:33:56 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3967d374ca5b4e8a9e477a73da4a3882@kabelmail.de> In-Reply-To: <3967d374ca5b4e8a9e477a73da4a3882@kabelmail.de> X-Scan-Signature: fb42d311bf65eb51bbb8124890b4f977 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Low QRN on VLF! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030202040100040908040701" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8931 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030202040100040908040701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi VLF, It is amazing how low the QRN is! The first season from my tree on VLF. The background in the 3.8 mHz window is black! :-) Uwe, what is the problem with higher losses? What is the limiting factor in your system? I assume the voltage? Then you can just run some more power and you are there again :-) It would be interesting to see a trace from you again. Also we could try some EbNAut tests again. Now my VLF N-S loop is connected, pointing into your direction. Please try again :-) 73, Stefan Am 03.10.2016 13:19, schrieb uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de: > Paul, Markus, > it was me on 8270Hz with a short test. I found the surrounding loss > too high. so I hve to wait some weeks until the trees etc are "sapless". > 73 > Uwe/dj8wx > > *Von:* Markus Vester > *Gesendet:* 02.10.2016 20:13 > *An:* > *Betreff:* Re: LF: Re: Low QRN on VLF! > Paul, thanks for the nice report! Of course I knew already, keenly > watching your spectrogram! > > On 8970.00 I'm now also getting a weak trace in 63 uHz. But with my > current setup I cannot completely rule out 1pps leakage from the GPS > wiring. Nothing on Stefan's N-S-loop though. Wonder who it might be... > > Where have all the grabbers gone? > > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Paul Nicholson > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: So, 2 Okt 2016 7:30 pm > Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Low QRN on VLF! > > Markus wrote: > > > Sending a 10 uW carrier on 8270.0025 Hz since 8:20 UT [1st Oct]. > > Your usual good signal here. Also today, looks like someone > on 8270.000 this morning for a few hours. > > http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=1475420400&b=080&s=sp > > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- --------------030202040100040908040701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi VLF,

It is amazing how low the QRN is! The first season from my tree on VLF. The background in the 3.8 mHz window is black! :-)

Uwe, what is the problem with higher losses? What is the limiting factor in your system? I assume the voltage? Then you can just run some more power and you are there again :-) It would be interesting to see a trace from you again. Also we could try some EbNAut tests again. Now my VLF N-S loop is connected, pointing into your direction. Please try again :-)

73, Stefan

Am 03.10.2016 13:19, schrieb uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de:
Paul, Markus,
it was me on 8270Hz with a short test. I found the surrounding loss too high. so I hve to wait some weeks until the trees etc are "sapless".
73
Uwe/dj8wx

 
Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
Gesendet: 02.10.2016 20:13
An: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Low QRN on VLF!
 
Paul, thanks for the nice report! Of course I knew already, keenly watching your spectrogram!

On 8970.00 I'm now also getting a weak trace in 63 uHz. But with my current setup I cannot completely rule out 1pps leakage from the GPS wiring. Nothing on Stefan's N-S-loop though. Wonder who it might be...

Where have all the grabbers gone? 

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)


-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Paul Nicholson <vlf0403@abelian.org>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 2 Okt 2016 7:30 pm
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Low QRN on VLF!
 

Markus wrote:

> Sending a 10 uW carrier on 8270.0025 Hz since 8:20 UT [1st Oct].

Your usual good signal here. Also today, looks like someone
on 8270.000 this morning for a few hours.

http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=1475420400&b=080&s=sp

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Paul Nicholson
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