Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u85Apqik006484 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:51:52 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bgrRY-0005X5-9k for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:48:00 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bgrRX-0005Ww-TD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:47:59 +0100 Received: from rgout0105.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.125]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bgrRW-0004Yp-4d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:47:58 +0100 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.135.56.12 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=40/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.9.5.92117:17:40.733,ip=86.135.56.12,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __RUS_SUBJ_ALL_UCASE_1251, __RUS_SUBJ_ALL_UCASE_KOI8R, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __HTTPS_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, LINK_TO_IMAGE, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __INT_PROD_GPS, __STOCK_PHRASE_7, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __URI_IN_BODY, __HTML_AHREF_TAG, __HTML_FONT_BLUE, __HAS_HTML, HTML_NO_HTTP, BODY_SIZE_10000_PLUS, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_3000_MORE, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[12.56.135.86.fur], HTML_70_90, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __OUTLOOK_MUA, RDNS_SUSP, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES Received: from gnat (86.135.56.12) by rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 57CCC6B0000DC6D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 11:47:55 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1473072478; bh=hH27pSByhijZvsd3CthQPTt6yO7dKSkNgTlptSnSeLA=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=P4t0lklU0bZ1zy7DfomxqpKxR0ee+JwsJRz7W0uy01Fvjnk11CluCnC7jD4nM+Q+Oxu/g83LMExJCYNhdEHuFqiHiplBr1N4nmqnoFfSG9REtGdYk9Nqeh+MAlobLZzs3GDdwDuK5iGjgi1VTLhX79eJ3zqaFnKy6Km6XqdDBIk= Message-ID: <9CEC7C0BF8714FA489FFE5BA429CB048@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB5D7D8201@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 11:47:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: b3b0f15d0cbaee08765b7bacd0352512 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01D2076B.521A0DE0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8684 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01D2076B.521A0DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hush Luis ! or O'Leary will be wanting to charge us for using his planes = as reflectors :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Yes Markus. Signal must be following some Ryanair path bouncing from = plane to plane :-) Since last night U3 transmits continously frame after frame. No stop = to GPS calibration So may be the increase in decodes this night is due to a better phase = coherence 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016 11:12 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Ol=E1 Luis, one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we seem to have = a private LF duct between us ;-) 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 2:21 pm Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thank you for the phase info Markus Can recall that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 = were phase coherent But my U3 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default = parameters, so probably the park function makes the difference. Will set it and test tonight The other difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting = continously. Only one frame every hour starting at minute 45 Thank you Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to = add a bit more inductance Will be better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for = QSO ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de 2016 12:50 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thanks a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) = Nice setup indeed on top of your roof! I believe that the U3 by default does not preserve phase between = dashes (possibly depending on a "park mode" setting but I'm not sure). = If you could make the transmission coherent the opds correlator might = gain another 3 to 4 dB sensitivity. All the best, Markus=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 11:10 am Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Last night the LF coils were connected and started to transmit Op32 = with just the 100mW from U3 = https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos%20varias/MF/MF%20and%20= LF%20coils.jpg So far, an Op32 correlation decode from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-) Who's next ?? ;-) 2016-09-01 04:18:19 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.968Hz 28mHz -42.5dBOp 93% = 15.5dBI have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic antenna I use as = a support pole whileworking as variable capacitor. I can get the = resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the internalmetallic element of = the vertical antenna. A great aid for remote tunning from shack73 de = LuisEA5DOM ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01D2076B.521A0DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hush Luis ! or O'Leary will be wanting = to charge us=20 for using his planes as reflectors :-))
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIGILANT = Luis=20 Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Monday, September 05, = 2016 11:00=20 AM
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF = tests

Hi LF
 
Yes Markus. Signal must be following some = Ryanair path=20 bouncing from plane to plane :-)
 
Since last night U3 transmits continously frame = after frame.=20 No stop to GPS calibration
So may be the increase in decodes this night is = due to a=20 better phase coherence
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus = Vester
Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016=20 11:12
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: = Re: LF:=20 EA5DOM LF tests

Ol=E1=20 Luis,

one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we = seem to=20 have a private LF duct between us ;-)

73, Markus=20 (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: = VIGILANT Luis=20 Fern=E1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 = 2:21=20 pm
Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Thank you=20 for the phase info Markus
 
Can recall=20 that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 were phase=20 coherent
 
But my U3=20 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default parameters, = so=20 probably the park function
makes the=20 difference. Will set it and test tonight
 
The other=20 difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting = continously. Only=20 one frame every hour
starting at=20 minute 45
 
Thank you=20 Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to add a bit = more=20 inductance
Will be=20 better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for QSO=20 ;-)
 
73 de=20 Luis
EA5DOM

De: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En = nombre de=20 Markus Vester
Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de = 2016=20 12:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM LF tests

Thanks=20 a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) Nice = setup indeed=20 on top of your roof!

I believe that the U3 by = default does=20 not preserve phase between dashes (possibly depending on a "park = mode"=20 setting but I'm not sure). If  you could make the = transmission=20 coherent the opds correlator might gain another 3 to 4 dB=20 sensitivity.

All the = best,
Markus 

-----Urspr=FCngliche=20 Mitteilung-----
Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An:=20 rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: = Do, 1 Sept=20 2016 11:10 am
Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi LF
 
Last night the LF coils = were=20 connected and started to transmit Op32 with just the 100mW from=20 U3
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos%20varia= s/MF/MF%20and%20LF%20coils.jpg
 
So far, an Op32 correlation = decode=20 from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-)
Who's next ?? = ;-)
2016-09-01 =
04:18:19 EA5DOM  1500km 137519.968Hz  28mHz -42.5dBOp  93% =
15.5dB
I have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic =
antenna I use as a support pole while
working as variable =
capacitor. I can get the resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the =
internal
metallic element of the vertical antenna. A great aid =
for remote tunning from shack
73 de =
Luis
EA5DOM
 
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