Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1481; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u7PJ3WYP023600 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:03:32 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bczsY-00042D-2l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:59:54 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bczsX-000424-JV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:59:53 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bczsV-0000lv-MY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:59:52 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62EF120A26 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3sKtlV0L7Mz104v for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:59:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57BF4025.2050906@posteo.de> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:59:49 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5772DAC0.7080001@df3lp.de> <5773CA12.50009@posteo.de> <5773D53A.5070900@abelian.org> <577B9E96.8070807@posteo.de> <577CA9CF.6070303@abelian.org> <578BC20F.60905@posteo.de> <57BF3A05.4080107@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <57BF3A05.4080107@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 7f2e5481aa97b3cbff3d653a1b2ddfbd Subject: Re: ULF: Key down signal on the 101 km band, still on the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8625 Hi Paul, Oh, a late reply but i see you were working hard. Interesting. And i like the attitute not to give up so quickly. Many thanks. Well, the transmission which took a few weeks left a signal of -100 dB(fs) on my grabber in 3.5 km. This was reproducable each day, of course not during high noise periods. Since a few weeks i can generate a stronger signal, up to 6 dB stronger. Maybe this helps to find something. But i don't want to run it for many weeks again. Furthermore i need to make changes to the system so there is no stability garantie. I have added plots showing the signal and noise and the phase (as received on the tree), see http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html You can see it is now peaking -94 dB. The antenna current plot is (inofficially) at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/VLF/TX.png The current is not stable but the phase is! I've also completed a regulator for the transductor. It tries to keep the resonance. But the phase meter is still not working properly on 2970 Hz. The next thing is, after the successful crossing or the far field border in the 17km experiment i was doing another experiment in 31 km distance! The signal is there but i am not happy with the recorded data. So i will repeat the experiment in a few days. It is now possible to use a small tablet PC running Windows 10 and SpecLab. SpecLab can write a single wav file having 30 GB. Since yesterday my transmit phase should be more stable. There were some EMC issues in the E field feedback (SpecLab PLL). Now the feedback signal is very strong and stable. The plot in the 424 uHz window confirms the stability. I'm still waiting for a clear peak coming in on the 4.1 uHz window. There is still a lot of QRN but it can't take long to get some quieter days. And last not least, there is some progress on the large coil which is intended to produce a much stronger signal on ULF. It will stay exciting :-) 73, Stefan Am 25.08.2016 20:33, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > > Paul, any results in a bandwidth < 1 uHz ? > > Not yet. > > After some software alterations I've tried down to 1uHz > bandwidth (about 10 days integration) but not the slightest > trace. > > Noise floor down there is around 0.003 fT. Sferic blanker > is working well. > > Tried integrating separately day and night, E and H and > combined and separate, blanking out the noisy periods, etc > in various combinations. It's been a slow job even with a > quick computer - each run takes a long time to pass all the > signal through. > > Disappointing, I thought we might have seen at least a hint > of signal. > > I wonder if perhaps the signal is a bit too close to a > cavity mode and dispersion effects are messing up the phase. > This is uncharted territory. LWPC doesn't give a solution > down here so can't use that as a guide. > > Or maybe there's just not enough ERP. > > Well, I haven't given up yet but for now I've run out of ideas. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >