Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u7B9fKY5009657 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:41:20 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bXmRc-0001XH-Ls for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:38:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bXmRc-0001X8-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:38:32 +0100 Received: from nm1-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.96.79]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bXmRa-0006Xt-Gz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:38:31 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=yahoo.co.uk Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s2048; t=1470908309; bh=3TdykiDxJ00Z3EXEClWUIG6bDHSjf7XJCOBsxTqOSAY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=d0v7XiaNQkrXTrLd/dgNa1/PWgGjwGA7zlJFB66ZicU+G80AT+9G35nGZkkUvK2WX1W2+Ke6VLZXDoTrWEkGvq5kc8+HEVKHwP3Q0Q+QfJIW5a1l326h0BU84atK/g5QU1cC3UZecjlX8Nqyj08Fgxim/abCthSoYkPzJdDc5yzFe6MqOWfBDt8KxQ1hsvHYM3Ri45DpbFvoxA9Du5l/VmrLUb14nGJ7hVjplf95Ev7jc7Tmx05g9WsN9lPBQ1ocKQEgnYCIMKyItYfJ2jw+8XMH3dZvCPGmb5hlfIb5xyf+vbgl1XSL6RLUGF47CNkOsKW2nd6BEANpbdUaaBx99g== Received: from [212.82.98.127] by nm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2016 09:38:29 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.80] by tm20.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2016 09:38:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2016 09:38:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 527726.28052.bm@omp1017.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: mZ.xYpwVM1k8qPrqJVpXF8u.3YFYjvovd7_2PEk43Q1pNP5ZdBCzSVNy_sLGosl 9crsBSLu2h5UWxkcPiSm.hSoxURY0un1tqZTl4QsqsuggMVtV0EvWfYgcTL1hWaXj9K4gBfxFx97 Cy5TrqT0srHhSsN2g6Tmsq.tJECudo1g5aZebW7t3UnK0ipRqyKQqeo_cXxjHBzTBfVyHdcG0UyE L1JDX3iAX7ZYxzZec.lOhoFyuz0ALc3y5X6JCo.RWrIjSeG3nti2AnCR010fdsLZq1RTkvO1VDz2 FVRzjAJeakyG_50niquvijb3lGwHUOcvBY4fi2kgNgEcMN4ZvobgiS7sfv9KVcfJx2Ugtnf28nj0 td5Pupis4ep3rS1gQnPShpYDKuTAEf.MKhoqeM1KNv0liqWGiZRTV_fyZ0UHAxVNuWlXIQUev8BI 99MrcuQf736Yo654LqtKWnhKv3IvTFCqyDemqO8Nf8Kgr0S3UAO3b.pe6fPo2dRkXcsN8l3KwPMR vzNZizv4D9YNd54OuegCNdydQw8Byb8JReaLhLON5ZjcsgBDHp9bNm5Kzot9r4A-- Received: from jws11146.mail.ir2.yahoo.com by sendmailws162.mail.ir2.yahoo.com; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:38:28 +0000; 1470908308.976 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:38:28 +0000 (UTC) From: David Hine To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Message-ID: <1984139206.21744298.1470908308648.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: b1e5ebccbad86c8ca1fd46d24f0285de Subject: Re: LF: They don't like it up 'em, they do not like it up-'em Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21744297_900631261.1470908308644" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8546 ------=_Part_21744297_900631261.1470908308644 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting, apparently the new 'smart' meters can be hacked remotely by pe= rsons with the required knowledge, kit=C2=A0and info -much less risk of get= ting=C2=A0caught than with the old meters, as direct access and physical ta= mpering=C2=A0are not now=C2=A0required -so they are not so 'smart' -another= =C2=A0unwanted 'spy in the house'=C2=A0thing!!!! Dave. From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group =20 Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2016, 10:19 Subject: LF: They don't like it up 'em, they do not like it up-'em =20 I've just been trying to use my new Smart Meter to measure the mains power = consumption of on of my 137kHz transmitters, =C2=A0the QRP 180 Watt linear = Tx. =C2=A0 I took the display unit out to the shed where the Tx resides and fired up t= he RF.=C2=A0 As soon as I touched the touchscreen controls, instant lockup = of the display unit. =C2=A0 Fortunately it had a master reset button. It certainly =C2=A0wasn't happy with high E-field, as , I'm sure any touchs= creen won't be Andy =C2=A0G4JNT ------=_Part_21744297_900631261.1470908308644 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting, apparently th= e new 'smart' meters can be hacked remotely by persons with the required kn= owledge, kit and info -much less risk of getting caught than with= the old meters, as direct access and physical tampering are not now&n= bsp;required -so they are not so 'smart' -another unwanted 'spy in the= house' thing!!!!

Dave.

From: Andy Talbo= t <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>
To= : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@= yahoogroups.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2016, 10:19
Subject: LF: They don't like it up 'em, they do not like i= t up-'em

I've just been trying to use my= new Smart Meter to measure the mains power consumption of on of my 137kHz = transmitters,  the QRP 180 Watt linear Tx.  

I took the display unit out to the shed where the Tx resides an= d fired up the RF.  As soon as I touched the touchscreen controls, ins= tant lockup of the display unit.   Fortunately it had a master reset b= utton.

It certainly  wasn't happ= y with high E-field, as , I'm sure any touchscreen won't be

Andy  G4JNT


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