Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u6DERYdP001955 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:27:34 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bNL4x-0002Es-Jl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:23:59 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bNL4r-0002Ef-EH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:23:53 +0100 Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bNL4n-0001Es-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:23:52 +0100 Received: by mail-io0-x231.google.com with SMTP id 38so47652315iol.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:23:49 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=y14XazBZl3+7AOWtVPxuZEk63+Ds77+Toos/qsE/Cto=; b=ZHZ9N6G5hytZDBtUBIq0fPt9RddlHi0rykE9Wwokr97AyHnuBxPZlFVXIQaZOkzhLb vZoavLOHvffii2xkk2OMuBuWDDIgrBnrfOj8KjtHXep8rHlqHO+Opb7oE75RLKoiCK6G WxycHF6RzLuqKRF/cAgDzw6Etm/A3aml+L6M0sNobhmU74eHEqenSF6W65f96CztZ3zi p81vjWiU46USOHgivHpn91ymXW81FZU2N+LWwCNC+Oj2bQ2RghZhMZhP8Du+zSoRdeNa zpIs6b+OXQF2LIcNx/MLOEXRvV2OVp97pAoF+EWyQoQIH5YAp78mlJP6stpaLLumbbtF GzYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=y14XazBZl3+7AOWtVPxuZEk63+Ds77+Toos/qsE/Cto=; b=K+QJip1TAUQbXoQznCnm/pyZp07jF1VN7+5pprxlVSrfZrkMdpAw6Exmt21NEw4SMS mzgDBKANzou4fBvOqiew6eXuM513yY/A1651kIbXlW84cqggi6BILxHjg6/phGVpQcdi 6LqklkBIbxDvInZTp3EQakCtVdAasXF74MuHqPfLWGhTsVoQEL/3Ybmw5awhqmKCB7UB nEkbv9rDvkuCdLHACdTUHpKW9QGMLmipJQNbZPivlah4jNQDD/HRwEJKVnEgH/XmkEo5 a0GPbB3FVZ0nm69SEey5AT4Y8kkSuejOuLnJkHtxH9RNhukWaRdU/VQP/DccvWmL5Db+ mzHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ1E1JD5tKoJEzmdSCGqqVl/Ku8fXeT7cwlnTtt/bJJsVjMl8mQKpFgkLuhnNmAUqA3LhdSmVBu2ZyhfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.56.215 with SMTP id f206mr9125827ioa.188.1468419828037; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.74.83 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.74.83 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:23:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000301d1dd10$eed5cfa0$cc816ee0$@t-online.de> References: <178286273.1256395.1468404155372.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <178286273.1256395.1468404155372.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <000301d1dd10$eed5cfa0$cc816ee0$@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:23:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: Richard S To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: e51657317b06d9cbe905ec682fad6602 Subject: Re: LF: AW: SAQ statistics Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114ac1d83b3e1f05378522f0 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8367 --001a114ac1d83b3e1f05378522f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hans, it would be great if you could publish details of your receive and antenna on the web, or put a short film on you tube of your 17khz loop 73richard SO5GB 13 lip 2016 14:20 "Hans Joachim Brandt" napisa=C5=82(a): > Dear Pete, > > I guess I am the culprit why so many Germans are able to receive SAQ (the > maximum number of SAQ receptions in Germany had even been 186 a few years > ago): > > I have started to receive SAQ in 1997, being a retired OM living in a > small village in eastern Bavaria. > > At first I have built a converter for SAQ to receive its frequency in a > radio amateur band. But then a neighbor two houses away has installed a > photovoltaic system on its house, and the operation of this system > increased the qrm level so much that I could not receive SAQ any longer > under these conditions. > > Then I had the idea to build a portable receiver especially for SAQ, > powered by a 9 V battery and a maximum current of 25 mA, depending on the > audio power needed for the headphones. I even found out that I just had t= o > divide the frequency of the well known clock crystal 32768 Hz by two to g= et > a tone frequency of 816 Hz for the reception of SAQ. This receiver has be= en > published in the german radio amateur perodical CQ DL May 2013. Six month= s > later the number of german radio amateurs sending repots to SAQ has > increased considerably. Still being a german member of the british > G-QRP-Club I have also written an English version of this SAQ receiver, b= ut > it had been rejected because of "not being QRP". Just this year, on 13. > April 2016, I have sent another English text about this receiver by email > to Radcom. But until now I have not received any answer so far if Radcom > would accept this text or not. > > MY SAQ receiver is based on the fact that outside of residential areas th= e > QRM in the VLF range is rather low. The antenna used is a tuned loop for > 17.2 kHz. The loop is also able to separate vertically polarised radio > waves from horizontal polarized waves. Even in the area where I usually > receive SAQ there is a street and a telecom tower, and when I am turning = my > loop into a horizontal position a singing noise can be heard. But in the > vertical position I have no problems to give a rapport of RST 589 for SAQ= . > > HW? > > 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von M0FMT > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2016 12:03 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: SAQ statistics > > Hi All > > Why is there such a high number of DLs receiving SAQ at 116 ? Very well > done! > G putting in a measly 19 rprts. > I further away but putting in 26 rprts. Well done PA also in there with 2= 4 > rprts. > > I blame the rsgb. > > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT GQRP#15097.in IO91UX . > > > > --001a114ac1d83b3e1f05378522f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hans, it would=C2=A0 be great if you could publish details o= f your receive and antenna on the web, or put a short film on you tube of y= our 17khz loop
73richard SO5GB

13 lip 2016 14:20 "Hans Joachim Brandt"= ; <hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-= online.de> napisa=C5=82(a):
Dear Pete,

I guess I am the culprit why so many Germans are able to receive SAQ (the m= aximum number of SAQ receptions in Germany had even been 186 a few years ag= o):

I have started to receive SAQ in 1997, being a retired OM living in a small= village in eastern Bavaria.

At first I have built a converter for SAQ to receive its frequency in a rad= io amateur band. But then a neighbor two houses away has installed a photov= oltaic system on its house, and the operation of this system increased the = qrm level so much that I could not receive SAQ any longer under these condi= tions.

Then I had the idea to build a portable receiver especially for SAQ, powere= d by a 9 V battery and a maximum current of 25 mA, depending on the audio p= ower needed for the headphones. I even found out that I just had to divide = the frequency of the well known clock crystal 32768 Hz by two to get a tone= frequency of 816 Hz for the reception of SAQ. This receiver has been publi= shed in the german radio amateur perodical CQ DL May 2013. Six months later= the number of german radio amateurs sending repots to SAQ has increased co= nsiderably. Still being a german member of the british G-QRP-Club I have al= so written an English version of this SAQ receiver, but it had been rejecte= d because of "not being QRP". Just this year, on 13. April 2016, = I have sent another English text about this receiver by email to Radcom. Bu= t until now I have not received any answer so far if Radcom would accept th= is text or not.

MY SAQ receiver is based on the fact that outside of residential areas the = QRM in the VLF range is rather low. The antenna used is a tuned loop for 17= .2 kHz. The loop is also able to separate vertically polarised=C2=A0 radio = waves from horizontal polarized waves. Even in the area where I usually rec= eive SAQ there is a street and a telecom tower, and when I am turning my lo= op into a horizontal position a singing noise can be heard. But in the vert= ical position I have no problems to give a rapport of RST 589 for SAQ.

HW?

73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von M0FMT
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2016 12:03
An: rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org
Betreff: LF: SAQ statistics

Hi All

Why is there such a high number of DLs receiving SAQ at 116 ?=C2=A0 Very we= ll done!
G putting in a measly 19 rprts.
I further away but putting in 26 rprts. Well done PA also in there with 24 = rprts.

I blame the rsgb.

73 es GL Pete M0FMT GQRP#15097.in IO91UX .



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