Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u6UMaind025396 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 00:36:44 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bTcjx-0006kC-00 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2016 23:28:17 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bTcjo-0006k3-Kq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2016 23:28:08 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bTcjl-0005RL-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2016 23:28:07 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 678532085E for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 00:28:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3s20bl5qvFz104Q; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 00:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <579D29F1.4020003@posteo.de> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 00:28:01 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Renato Romero References: <5772DAC0.7080001@df3lp.de> <5773CA12.50009@posteo.de> <5773D53A.5070900@abelian.org> <577B9E96.8070807@posteo.de> <577CA9CF.6070303@abelian.org> <578BC20F.60905@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <578BC20F.60905@posteo.de> X-Scan-Signature: c9c533f07c530c146486ecf89a00ebb1 Subject: Re: ULF: Key down signal on the 101 km band, still on the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8476 Hi all, The 100 nW ERP 2970 Hz carrier has been on the air since 26th of June, 13 UTC. The transmitter phase has been stable since this time. There were only a few very short interruptions, 90 minutes on the 17th of July and then about 5 hours (5:45....11 UTC) on the 21st of July. So it has been on the air since nearly 5 weeks. The signal is still on the air but tomorrow 8 UTC i will do a frequency shift of + 2.5 mHz. Later i will do an EbNaut test. If someone still want to integrate the overall transmission into one peak, tomorrow, 31th July 8 UTC will be the stop time. In a few days i will then come back with a 6 dB stronger signal: Coming from the LF world we assume that using a parallel capacitor to the antenna is not a good idea. More C will mean less L, so you need less wire and could think that this lowers the losses. But higher currents are then needed which will cause even higher losses... Thus i didn't consider to use a parallel C on ULF too. BUT on ULF, with voltage limited systems it can be a good choice! I run the yoghurt cup coil at 270 mA antenna current on my 470 pF antenna at 6470 Hz. So it must have 1.29 H. So at 2970 Hz and 270 mA it must have 6.5 kV! Currently i have about 3.2 kV. So with this alternative matching i will get a 6 dB stronger signal. I will then need 1.76 nF parallel to the antenna. My 17 km distance experiment is running now! I have installed the loop antenna somewhere in JN49KM. The Raspy is now recording stereo wav files to the 32 GB USB stick... I'm using 2x 7 Ah lead acid gel batteries for the supply. 1PPS+NMEA is used on the right channel. 73, Stefan Am 17.07.2016 19:36, schrieb DK7FC: > Hi all, > > The signal is on the air since > 3 weeks now :-) > Paul, any results in a bandwidth < 1 uHz ? > > Renato Romero has started a spectrogram of 1.26 uHz FFT bin width and > a 3000 min / pixel scroll rate :-) > > Between 16...17:30 UTC today the transmitter stopped for some reason. > I have restarted the PC. Now the signal is on the air again. The phase > of the signal is not just constant, it is even the same as before the > PC restart :-) So the loss of just 90 minutes doesn't really hurt... > > 73, Stefan > > Am 06.07.2016 08:48, schrieb Paul Nicholson: >> >> Stefan wrote: >> >> > The carrier is on the air since 9 days now, without >> > an interruption. >> >> Nothing is visible, not even the beginning of a peak at 2970, >> down to bandwidths of 1.36 uHz. >> >> I continue to experiment with the settings of filters and >> sferic blanker. The noise floor is too high, averaging >> 0.023 fT in 1.36 uHz even after blanking the noisy periods. >> It should be a lot lower than that. If I can fix that problem, >> we may see the signal appear. >> >> -- >> Paul Nicholson >> -- >> >