Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u5AGAJ9Z015962 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:10:19 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bBOsp-00066L-3q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:02:07 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bBOso-00066C-G7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:02:06 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bBOsk-00015H-CV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:02:05 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0571D20A73 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:02:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3rR6PM71qgz5vNC for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:01:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <575AE477.3000605@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:01:59 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1685128417.20160531153441@chriswilson.tv> <844647135.20160607150703@chriswilson.tv> <5757E24F.1050507@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <5757E24F.1050507@posteo.de> X-Scan-Signature: 49f0f587e44d6711c57b8a4e950ba850 Subject: Re: ULF: A first step on the 100 km band Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8245 Hi all, I've added a small air gap to my transformer and increased the number of turns on the transformer (which meanwhile just acts as a loading coil). Now there are 7 layers and about 1400 turns. The new resonance is 2.87 kHz. I put 6.8 nF (and 47kOhm in parallel) in series to the antenna to move the resonance to 2.97 kHz. It is better to 'sit' on top of the resonance because there is a risk of a flash over when it starts to rain (the C of the wet antenna would be higher, so i come closer to the resonance and so the voltage would rise). At 1.4 kV i'm now getting about 14 mA antenna current and 25 nW ERP! The signal is now well visible in my 3.8 mHz window at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html At 5 UTC i'm running a first EbNaut message in 10s symbols, just local, just for the fun. The next step would be to wind further 1600 turns on the transformer to reach its final voltage limit of 3 kV (rms) and 100 nW ERP. A photo of the transformer https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/ULF%20loading%20coil%206.1H.jpg 73, Stefan Am 08.06.2016 11:15, schrieb DK7FC: > Hi all, > > I've got a first result with my ULF project: One of the ideas to > generate and radiate a signal on the 100 km band to use a ferrite > power transformer with using two E cores out of N27 material. These > are available at https://www.buerklin.com/de/e-kern/p/83d970 > At 2970 Hz i can apply 1 V / turn without saturating the core, maybe > even more. I think i can generate 3 kV (rms) with one transformer > without a risk of a flashover. And i can set an air gap between the > two E cores. > > For 2970 Hz i need L = 6.1 H! Now without an air gap i need about 800 > turns (hand wound!)to resonate the antenna. So i can apply 800 V now. > On 2970 Hz, my antenna radiation resistance is 70 uOhm. With 800V on > the wire it radiates 6 nW! > The distance to my remote site is 3.5 km or 0.035 lambda. > > I'm TXing since last night and got a trace of up to 15 dB SNR in 424 > uHz. Quite weak but it's a first step. > The signal was radiated with an E field antenna and received with a H > field antenna, so there could be a better result in the near field. > > I' now planning to wind more turns on the transformer and add an air > gap to keep the inductance and rise the voltage limit. > > 73, Stefan