Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u4UJwN82017529 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 21:58:23 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1b7TGg-0001HW-QL for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 May 2016 20:54:30 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1b7TGg-0001HN-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 May 2016 20:54:30 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1b7TGe-0003t7-2S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 May 2016 20:54:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([185.78.62.120]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M54s2-1bQcyl1qs2-00zDd0 for ; Mon, 30 May 2016 21:54:25 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1579801519.1835297.1464620980003.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe10.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> <12c5e47a-4fbd-d795-8372-896ea8360942@freenet.de> From: Tobias DG3LV Message-ID: <75235e49-5622-733a-8fd8-bde46fb6c400@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:54:24 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <12c5e47a-4fbd-d795-8372-896ea8360942@freenet.de> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:vjkX4hhKC9gCi4lVBPKsn8Xs9Wuo3qS3/5960qL6+Et3JloBFqw 9ys8I8fTRp0Oy0mv9JWE6Ono6J573RY6Zab+zOGVktN47PG+FrGP/aeXD5mhcAMUmq6yNz5 xfVM1SzdWI9O1w0l3+is4obDnKd6X0GRTxw+npfiNjTGIuE6e08+fyJERKkhpwuvX6e25ng DWNTbdrPjuhwtV9DDaZ0A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zjPXfKMSPgM=:tyCMtDXFHx9182CgA3S7Oe IMH4Ry745S5rNSMSZmb3T5uCDKtzf+b78jPm7EKQu6EVNXlgEfK8FlnFtWCFMb5jv/QbWa3dI jmRhyDqygBtTJeHTcby8SeCb6UUBMGTuHKsY5WSLB8qTpGkM61873vPZMZcT7KqlmnEZgA+Nh 7+lvI2iUxh2Ibp7tYHNJUV8HrN5S2pZuwQr6W5RddBlsUwjUBXIekzoBsCKMKYamM/xnnETLw 57qBa4TEEAgLSDKcXQjpvH/040g+prVmdlnUvlrWh07Je4Z2A0H/AoJiI1BI4+UnUw6P1PwU2 p8NnEP85isIvgQ7reKzTVTAP4wJfayr74oiO8iVH7XGapyoKNJTDa5FhZPAqRPoFSOaJ4n/7u 6ChZUz96y29acKfMzO8G6zw6kDdXlwi3DlrEnPHPXEzcxVDWfOwJum7Qi2Mt5pemYkWX2iDiB Ppe/JcPlkyTtR1i+sUej4+5jBTcM1mEYgZlsNTLDqhGQiiTJlkpaXedQuBLz1PwhLLgkEGPTt f4K1a/mj62z8d2XkJBgi71aHDkJ4JxLfKBkCZ68hmPAAsLs8fmkpl73wckZ0gaor2iOsJnTB2 42ZOF0ybzFZSSORnmh6HEPL39jmnxro7EEp0fxvu7FoONz14Y8rUCqZR2HSIYLyejsGduZjhI 7e01IpmB/mdVVL8e6e2jyy6ckru9jW+WCSRcSY1Jo/g6srp0G0m4zIiMJGC2t7FjVu9nihA1N i4EdJf6AW2mwMpIApP8DaFUhvybfiEa1UbpXLnQ+ag8zJ+pj0i5YNLjeNprns3ufZ9OiurVHJ hPSGKBa X-Scan-Signature: 85c54099682e8e65d9e25bf804a68673 Subject: Re: Re: LF: SDR-Play and Spectrum Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8192 Hi Dave, Wolfgang ! You are right, 12 Bit is the "native" resolution, but not the "effective" resolution, as is written on the main page of sdrplay.com : Technical Specifications: Frequency range: Total coverage from 0.1MHz to 2GHz ADC performance: 12 bit native ADC Sample Freq: 2MSPS – 10.66MSPS 10.4 ENOB 60dB SNR 67dB SFDR It took me some time to find out what the abbreviation "ENOB" meant. A datasheet of the chip is available at : http://www.mirics.com/node/4 Ohh, and sorri, it is 10.4 Bits and not just 10. 73 de dg3lv Tobias Am 30.05.2016 um 21:23 schrieb Wolfgang Büscher: > Hello Tobias, Dave, and the group, > > Great, thanks Tobias - in that case, Dave doesn't need to fool around > with virtual audio cables etc. > After installing the ExtIO-interface, you can select ("install") it as > an input device for Spectrum Lab as explained here: > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/settings.htm#ext_io_dll > > About the A/D converters resolution: Ummm... I thought it was 12 bits. > If it's 10 bits, even a cheap DSPic with a bit of decimation could > achieve a similar dynamic range. Maybe time for me to continue with that > project.. too many other things got in the way lately.. > > All the best, > Wolf . > > Am 30.05.2016 um 21:08 schrieb Tobias DG3LV: >> Hi Dave, Wolfgang ! >> >> Please have a look at this website : >> http://www.sdrplay.com/windows.html >> >> http://www.sdrplay.com/software/SDRplay_EXTIO_Installer_v3.8.3.exe >> >> The Chip-manufacturer claims 10 Bit resolution ENOB (effective number >> of bits), so the device should be somewhat better than the usual DVB-T >> sticks at 8 Bits (at more than 10 times the price of those). >> >> 73 de dg3lv Tobias >> >> Am 30.05.2016 um 20:47 schrieb Wolfgang Büscher: >>> Hello Dave, >>> >>> By coincidence, one of the developers of SDR-play recently asked me if >>> I'd like to have one of these devices to add support for it. Since I >>> cannot devote lots of time for it, my suggestion was that one of the >>> SDR-play developers should write an ExtIO-compatible interface DLL for >>> it. Most if not all SDR programs support it, for example Winrad, HDSDR, >>> Spectrum Lab, and possibly many others, so writing such a DLL would make >>> their radio more useful to many users. >>> I don't know what happened since then, but maybe there is a >>> Winrad-compatible "ExtIO"-DLL available already, which you can easily >>> load in Spectrum Lab as driver for an 'input device'. Just let me know >>> if you need more information. >>> It would be interesting to know how the SDR-play compares with other >>> (more expensive) SDRs. Maybe I will carry one home from the Ham Radio >>> fair in Friedrichshafen this year... >>> >>> All the best, >>> Wolf . >>> >>> >>> Am 30.05.2016 um 17:09 schrieb DAVE PICK: >>>> >>>> Dear LF >>>> >>>> I have a new toy which I've finished playing with and I want to use it >>>> for some useful purpose. It's an "SDR-Play" USB SDR. >>>> >>>> What I'd like to be able to use it for is to replace my old Soft-Rock >>>> SDRs for my LF and MF grabbers. >>>> >>>> I can get it to view a slice of the spectrum 500 or 600kHz wide from, >>>> say 50 to 550kHz, then I want to be able to run two instances of >>>> Spectrum Lab (or Argo?) to take grabs of the 136 and 472kHz bands. >>>> >>>> But, how do I configure spectrum Lab (or another program) to be able >>>> to do this? I feel awfully out of my depth when I read anything about >>>> setting this sort of thing up so any help in plain language would be >>>> appreciated! >>>> >>>> I realise I'll have to pay great attention to the front-end filtering >>>> in order to make the most of the limited resolution of the A/D but >>>> that sort of stuff I can cope with! >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave G3YXM >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > >