Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u4K5afPn014326 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 07:36:41 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1b3czY-0005BR-MM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:28:56 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1b3czX-0005BI-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:28:55 +0100 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1b3czW-0008PB-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:28:54 +0100 Received: from pn.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826213273EA for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:27:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pn.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3404400048 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 05:28:52 +0000 (UTC) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <154c32c4dba-373a-24653@webprd-m58.mail.aol.com> <573CAF79.9040701@abelian.org> <573CBBF0.4030701@posteo.de> <573E5907.6020107@posteo.de> From: Paul Nicholson Message-ID: <573EA094.3040205@abelian.org> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 05:28:52 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <573E5907.6020107@posteo.de> X-Scan-Signature: 64437c466041e93ffedda7fb96b22b71 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8131 Measurement of reconstructed carrier from the 31.5 hour message, In approximately 8 hour blocks (34.7uHz): From To Signal S/N Phase Noise 16th 21:00 17th 05:00 0.077 fT 11.0 dB 112.7 0.022 fT 17th 05:00 17th 13:00 0.063 fT 17.4 dB 75.2 0.0085 fT 17th 13:00 17th 21:00 0.041 fT 9.2 dB 83.5 0.0143 fT 17th 21:00 18th 04:30 0.05 fT 3.8 dB 125.0 0.032 fT Day/night phase shift up to 50 degrees which is about what was expected, although this is a long average so it could be varying more on shorter timescales to make the signal apparently weaker. The 18th from 00:00 onwards was noisy. Overall, would have needed to average about 14dB in this bandwidth (34.7 uHz) to have a reasonable chance (~50%) of decode. Daytime is doing better than nighttime. In 17.36 uHz we have 17th 04:00 to 20:00 0.057 fT 18.2 dB (eg 11 chars, 72 seconds, Eb/N0 = +0.23 dB) Or, in 34.7 uHz 17th 05:00 to 13:00 0.063 fT 17.4 dB (eg 9 chars, 40 seconds, Eb/N0 = +0.2 dB) Conclusion is that it's not the phase that's blocking these long messages, it's the poor nighttime S/N. -- Paul Nicholson --