Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 104; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u4IJ585m009169 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 21:05:08 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1b36iV-0002IK-Q3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2016 20:01:11 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1b36iV-0002IB-H0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2016 20:01:11 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1b36iT-0006R4-Pg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 May 2016 20:01:10 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD7D520847 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 21:01:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3r93Sd2PTGz5vNL for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 21:01:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <573CBBF0.4030701@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 21:01:04 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <154c32c4dba-373a-24653@webprd-m58.mail.aol.com> <573CAF79.9040701@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <573CAF79.9040701@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 1c38f63d01970a2bf149f660c9cb2a37 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8123 Hi Paul, VLF, Hmmmm, a pity. I have been optimistic. On the other side it shows that working down there is far from trivial or normal. Do you think the phase variations are stronger or rather unpredictable? Some time ago you said the phase changes are no problem. maybe it can be completely different on different days? You know, Renato is updating his dreamers band spectrograms. I will run a longer carrier again soon, trying to leave a trace there. Maybe this is helpful for you to get more informations about the phase variations and their reproducability. Markus is crazy, counting psk-ing of the carrier and pixels :-) So the capture of the decoder was a fake (?). At least not a typical decode ;-) I calibrated the SpecLab plotter to show my antenna current directly in mA in a linear scale and show the image in png format now. It is a good feedback for me and decoding stations to check if everything went fine so far: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/VLF/TX.png Only a 3.86 kB file, ideal for regular updating on a smartphone ;-) 73, Stefan Am 18.05.2016 20:07, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan wrote: > > > f = 6470.00000 Hz > > Start time: 16.05.2016 21:00:02 UTC > > Symbol length: 100 s > > Characters: 20 > > CRC 16 > > Coding 8K19A > > I wasn't able to decode the 18 char message. Thanks to > Markus for the sneaky decode, I was able to reverse the > modulation to see the signal was 13.6dB in 8.8 uHz. > > That puts Eb/N0 at about -6.5 dB. > > Strange, I was expecting a better result because the > background noise was quite low throughout the message. > > Tomorrow I'll have a closer look to try and see if > propagation is upsetting the phase. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >