Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD, SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u4B99Vpk012916 for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:09:32 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1b0Pyi-00049l-Rt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 09:58:48 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1b0Pyi-00049c-5U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 09:58:48 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1b0Pyg-00041D-GM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 09:58:47 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0EDE20A3F for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:58:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3r4VQp5NRfz5vN7 for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:58:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5732F442.2050105@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 10:58:42 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <40b8e5c6692149a7911fe77631ebb33b@kabelmail.de> <572BB679.2040107@posteo.de> <572BE449.5010806@abelian.org> <279E0DEFDAFA4C849152DBBA3BFEDE8C@White> <572C5E72.7010404@posteo.de> <912731037.20160506233059@mterrier.net> <572D1111.9030302@posteo.de> <572D9843.7060402@abelian.org> <572DBBD3.3020709@posteo.de> <572DC660.5050007@abelian.org> <572E4BF7.1060103@posteo.de> <572F9120.2010200@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <572F9120.2010200@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 9ca91679b330d65f05d707c2d2b164fe Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8028 Hi Paul, VLF, Is everything all right? I'm asking myselfe if you are working on the decode all the time or if you are doing completely other stuff now ;-) Maybe we need more experiance with this 46km band. Maybe it is not so easy, not just 20lg(8.27/6.47) db harder. This morning the QRN is very low, a pity that i have not been on the air. I need to and will prmodify the system so i can transmit during working days, i.e. all the time. Then it could be useful to start with shorter messages during the morning hours. For example, 40s symbols and 3 characters. Or 3 characters with 200s symbols. I was wrong when saying i am output transformer limited. Yesterday i tested my VLF PA on a 1 kOhm (that's the loss resistance of the antenna, about) / 400 W resistor and watched the voltage wave form at 280 mA output current. Also watched the supply current and eventual ferrite core warming. To my surprise it is no problem to go down to 2.97 kHz, the target frequency :-) So it must have been a problem of the non-resonance of the antenna. I hope to make the system ready for 24/7 transmissions today and will announce further experiments then. 73, Stefan Am 08.05.2016 21:18, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > > There was another carrier from 09:45...19:45 UTC today [7th] > > on 6470 Hz. > > Thanks, that was useful against the low daytime noise. > > I'm having fun with the H field rx, it's not working so > well at 6.47 compared with 8.27. E field is doing well. > At 8.27 usually H has the better S/N but not so at > 6.47 I think because of the hum harmonics reducing > the blanker effectiveness. The above carrier helps > with diagnostics. > > > Start time: 07.05.2016 20:00:02 UTC > > Period: 100s > > Length: 19 > > CRC 16 > > Coding 8K19A > > A problem with the E-field rx here may disrupt that. > Battery went flat today while I was out. Lost about > 3 hours. No a disaster, EbNaut can still recover > the message if the rest is received well enough. > > It was a very noisy night last night and geomagnetic > disturbance this morning. Maybe today and tonight will > make up for that. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > >