Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u44IZTSQ023421 for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 20:35:30 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ay1Yl-0007ho-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 19:30:07 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ay1Yk-0007hf-Ot for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 19:30:06 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1Yi-0007Ob-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 19:30:05 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A893320AC7 for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 20:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3r0RRB4psRz5vN9 for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 20:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <572A3FA6.1090707@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 20:29:58 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <154777e5a99-7794-fc2f@webprd-a10.mail.aol.com> <5728DB40.3010107@abelian.org> <57291999.6070601@posteo.de> <5729211C.1030208@posteo.de> <5729AB92.1070905@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <5729AB92.1070905@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 420019f4991fbaa4f653703c21f48617 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020401040402070707020303" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7997 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020401040402070707020303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, R, i understand. Last night the antenna current was 165 mA only because it was a bit detuned. Also the output transformer is quite loud at 6.47 kHz so i had to stop during the working day. I think the core begins to saturate at that frequency and the output voltage is even higher due to the higher total loss resistance (2 additional coils). A few minutes ago i put some more iron power cores 'into the field'. They are a different type but that doesn't matter. The WX is perfect see, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160504_195418.jpg The resonance dropped closer to 6.47 kHz, i can and am running *200 mA now, since 18:08 UTC*. I will run it for some hours, maybe through the night. The PA power supply shows 23V*3.7A = 85W input power. With 200 mA, i have 10.5 kV rms on the wire. Last night, the 50s symbols at just 165 mA was quite critical i think. But we can afford to risk something after so much success now. Also, 50s was the longest length to be finished when work starts here in the building. Now, unfortunately i lost access to my Raspi in the forest. It seems to need a restart. This happens after running a few weeks without a reboot. I have to find the problem... Will be in the tree again tomorrow if the WX is fine. Then the system will come back on air. Tell me if you found the best settings so i can start a message. I would assume that 100s symbol length should be no problem on that frequency and 200 mA. 73, Stefan Am 04.05.2016 09:58, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > > f = 6470.000 Hz > > Start time: 03.05.2016 22:30:02 UTC > > Period: 50 s > > Length: 5 > > No decode so far but that's no surprise. I need to find the > right settings for this frequency: calibrating the E and H > rx phase and finding the best pre-blanker filter settings. > > The filter settings become more critical down here because > some mains harmonics start to appear in the pass band. > > Is it possible to send a few hours of carrier? > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > --------------020401040402070707020303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul,

R, i understand. Last night the antenna current was 165 mA only because it was a bit detuned. Also the output transformer is quite loud at 6.47 kHz so i had to stop during the working day. I think the core begins to saturate at that frequency and the output voltage is even higher due to the higher total loss resistance (2 additional coils).
A few minutes ago i put some more iron power cores 'into the field'. They are a different type but that doesn't matter.
The WX is perfect see, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160504_195418.jpg
The resonance dropped closer to 6.47 kHz, i can and am running 200 mA now, since 18:08 UTC. I will run it for some hours, maybe through the night. The PA power supply shows 23V*3.7A = 85W input power. With 200 mA, i have 10.5 kV rms on the wire.

Last night, the 50s symbols at just 165 mA was quite critical i think. But we can afford to risk something after so much success now. Also, 50s was the longest length to be finished when work starts here in the building.

Now, unfortunately i lost access to my Raspi in the forest. It seems to need a restart. This happens after running a few weeks without a reboot. I have to find the problem...
Will be in the tree again tomorrow if the WX is fine. Then the system will come back on air.

Tell me if you found the best settings so i can start a message. I would assume that 100s symbol length should be no problem on that frequency and 200 mA.

73, Stefan

Am 04.05.2016 09:58, schrieb Paul Nicholson:

> f = 6470.000 Hz
> Start time: 03.05.2016   22:30:02 UTC
> Period: 50 s
> Length: 5

No decode so far but that's no surprise.  I need to find the
right settings for this frequency: calibrating the E and H
rx phase and finding the best pre-blanker filter settings.

The filter settings become more critical down here because
some mains harmonics start to appear in the pass band.

Is it possible to send a few hours of carrier?
--
Paul Nicholson
--

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