Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1117; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3KAvX4g008641 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 12:57:33 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aspjd-0007eC-1b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:51:53 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aspjc-0007e3-Oc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:51:52 +0100 Received: from smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.1.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1aspjZ-00080q-FF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:51:51 +0100 Received: from [82.70.254.222] (helo=OfficeWin7.lan) by smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aspjY-0005Cc-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:51:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:51:47 +0100 From: Chris Wilson Organization: Gatesgarth Developments X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <885507565.20160420115147@chriswilson.tv> To: Mike Dennison In-Reply-To: <57175921.22075.57BECD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <5713E677.6040003@lineone.net>, <1071555453.20160418034309@chriswilson.tv>, <5716079B.30004@lineone.net> <57175921.22075.57BECD@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-smarthost01a-IP: [82.70.254.222] X-Scan-Signature: 4c0633a540d76adc241b9d3cede72a57 Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiving (was Alex (R7NT) reports) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7795 Hello Mike, Wednesday, April 20, 2016 I have been using a home built active antenna a friend bought me off Ebay, probably a close copy of the "proper" one I feel guilty about having a clone of. It's in a home built capped waste water pipe housing near the top of my lattice mast, on its fibreglass topmost section. I have found it does not work as well feeding my dedicated LF receiver, one of these: http://icas.to/lineup/idc-136ii-kit-eng.htm as does my transmitting, resonant aerial. That's a vertical with a horizontal quad loop as its top hat. This active antenna is just using the dedicated PCB section as the antenna, maybe I should add an external piece of stiff wire to it? I am certainly not plagued by any strong transmissions near here, it's normally our own electric fences that cause me issues.But sharing a TX aerial with a receiver is a pain. As is sharing my HF loop with an LF TX.... :( I need more aerials, but I do not need a divorce. Difficult! I would and could invest in a dedicated receiver for LF though, something hopefully better than the one in the link above. Space isn't an issue. Any suggestions for something commercially available? I am not incompetent at building stuff, I simply do not have the time at the moment, due to work. I have used my Kenwood TS-590 as an LF receiver, but again, as it's also the exciter form y LF amp, it's a pain swapping stuff about. I really want something I can leave on RX all the time like the IDC-136ii above, but better... Thanks. Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv My part time LF grabber is at http://www.chriswilson.tv/grabber.html > Hugh's advice is excellent - adequate sensitvity, a resonant antenna > and good front-end filtering. I would add good dynamic range, an > effective noise blanker and ideally a way to reduce or switch off the > AGC. After fittng the filters, there should still be a large > difference in background noise when the antenna is connected. > Local noise is a major factor, and it may be necessary to have a > separate receive antenna, situated and oriented away from the noise > source. > Lastly, it can help to have a directional (preferably steerable) > antenna to reduce lightning noise away from the wanted direction. > Mike, G3XDV > ============