Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3TKkUAl004888 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:46:31 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1awFG6-00029q-5P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:43:30 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1awFG5-00029g-SK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:43:29 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1awFG3-0006Sw-PA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:43:28 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A37A3209F3 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:43:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3qxQdV2VShz5vNH for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:43:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5723C76E.70002@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:43:26 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57237FB9.2060507@posteo.de> <8D3705FBF0E442D-628-9A0506@webmail-vm001.sysops.aol.com> <5723C259.3090800@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <5723C259.3090800@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: ac0f6ff1af52b6036ac1f4fe0c2bd52c Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmission on 8270.1 Hz again and again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7933 Hi Paul, Yes, it will be interesting. Just 4 hours are gone now, i can't await it! ;-) What about the phase of DHO38, is it useful to get a rough idea about the phase changes? For slower modes (taking more then 12 hours), could it be useful to insert non-keyed sections to make a phase check each 2 hours or so? Maybe it will be possible to develop a technique to calculate the behaviour of the terminator by watching given (msk) signals close to the transmitter, maybe even 2 or 3 of such reference signals. 12 hours is nothing! You remember my QRSS-60000 transmission, my callsign sent in 10 weeks! :-) 100 GB RAM, that's extreme. Certainly interesting but i would rather like to go a step closer to communications which are manageable for more people. During a yesterdays walk through the forest i got some ideas about a QSO/beacon config for EbNaut. But i will describe that in a separate mail/topic, following... 73, Stefan Am 29.04.2016 22:21, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > > 27 hours will not be easy. > > Indeed, four terminators to cope with. Half the message > will have daytime phase and half night time phase and > a mess in between. No chance of a decode if day and night > phase differs by more than 90 deg (which it probably will). > > So I will have to get a nominal phase from LWPC or my > own modeling program (or just guess) and use that to EQ the > signal before decode. > > An interesting challenge! Thanks Stefan > > > Start: 29.04.2016 16:00:02 > > Period: 40 > > Length: 45 (!) > > No problem with the length, and for future tests like > this, why not run a 16K code (with half symbol period) > and with longer constraint length, eg 16K25A? The > decoder will need about 100 Gbyte RAM for that, but > that's ok, I just use a big AWS Xeon with 36 cores and > a ton of RAM. The extra bit of coding gain is worth it > and might make all the difference. > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- > > >