Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,MANY_EXCLAMATIONS,PLING_QUERY,SPF_PASS, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u34LcBtw020509 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 23:38:12 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1anC7j-0005nr-J8 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:33:27 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1anC7f-0005ni-RT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:33:23 +0100 Received: from omr-a005e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.50]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1anC7d-00062c-RZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2016 22:33:22 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-aal01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aal01.mx.aol.com [172.27.20.207]) by omr-a005e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4E9F538000BE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-acb02c.mail.aol.com (core-acb02.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.2]) by mtaomg-aal01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0A38038000084 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 188.192.95.60 by webprd-a107.mail.aol.com (10.72.52.245) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 04 Apr 2016 17:33:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:33:17 -0400 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <153e331b084-6ed0-d9a9@webprd-a107.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <789a29e2ba5a4cee8a6c0cb47830deb6@kabelmail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.192.95.60] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1459805598; bh=Ue3BKgT1NzGp0N4qMuXugFu2WgL72TT1m/yYFOxovtA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gOdDApoTh5Ur558yEt2ZcBzAIsQA7eBCQpIsdC2MHV+fbFPKHAH2wAoZYwgnop8gd qYTOIFD6KCVdDCP4U38VGGUeHiVpder+2fksa15WUGdO5od4Z4czN0PFhBUoR9jMLe 8lt2+dp18PZKXmNll6w2HpHbt2QehZsEaWhtH3GI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b14cf5702dd9e0a2e X-Scan-Signature: b2000330e4064ca60a9f57e731b892da Subject: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Sucess!?! - yes, alsoin Heidelberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69443_1065288426.1459805597823" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7601 ------=_Part_69443_1065288426.1459805597823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Uwe, nil here. All I can offer is "QR-" and "8@=3D" at low SNR and hi= gh rank numbers. =20 I did see another carrier on 8270.000 this afternoon, presumably again from= Roland DL3NDR.=20 Hey we need a band plan ;-) No we don't really. However I would suggest to = move EbNaut activity away from the grabber waterhole by an integer multiple= of the symbol rate (N*0.0333 Hz for 30 s, e.g. 8269.9667 Hz). Then any int= erference from carriers near 8270.000 will be suppressed by the sin(x)/x re= sponse of the EbNaut decoder's symbol integration filter. =20 73, Markus =20 =20 =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: uwe-jannsen An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mo, 4 Apr 2016 10:25 pm Betreff: AW: Re: AW: AW: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Sucess!?! - yes, al= soin Heidelberg Paul, I counted on you! Stefan, Markus, did you decode something? Uwe =20 Von: Paul Nicholson Gesendet: 04.04.2016 19:36 An: Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Sucess!?! - yes, alsoin = Heidelberg =20 > sri, it is raining accompanied by heavy wind. > switch off time was abt 16:27 That was enough, about 70% of the message was transmitted. Copied an obvious correct decode with Eb/N0 =3D +2.4 dB. -- Paul Nicholson -- =20 ------=_Part_69443_1065288426.1459805597823 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Uwe, nil here. Al= l I can offer is "QR-" and "8@=3D" at low SNR and high rank numbers.=
 
I did see another carrier on 8270.000 this afternoon, presumably = again from Roland DL3NDR.
 
Hey we need a band plan ;-) No we don't really. However I&nb= sp;would suggest to move EbNaut activity away from the grabber waterhole by=  an integer multiple of the symbol rate (N*0.0333 Hz for 30 s, e.= g. 8269.9667 Hz). Then any interference from carriers near 8270.000 wi= ll be suppressed by the sin(x)/x response of the EbNaut decoder's symb= ol integration filter.
 
73, Markus
 
 
 
 
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Von: uwe-jannsen <uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Mo, 4 Apr 2016 10:25 pm
Betreff: AW: Re: AW: AW: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Sucess!?! - yes, al= soin Heidelberg

Pa= ul,
I counted on you!

Stefan, Markus,
did you decode something?

Uwe

 
Von: Paul Nicholson <vlf0403@abelian.org>
Gesendet:<= /b> 04.04.2016 19:36
An: &l= t;rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Sucess!?! - yes, alsoin Heidel= berg
 

> sri, it is raining accompanied by heavy wind.
> switch off time was abt 16:27

That was enough, about 70% of the message was transmitted.

Copied an obvious correct decode with Eb/N0 =3D +2.4 dB.

--
Paul Nicholson
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