Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2289Jwl013787 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:09:19 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ab1gv-0006Lo-0U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 07:59:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ab1gu-0006Lf-A6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 07:59:28 +0000 Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ab1gs-000285-FI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 07:59:27 +0000 Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id e6so193571327vkh.2 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 23:59:26 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=C+Nj54H4LNUL5JHGnndmtGk28+ETsWMa3osifmpEJc4=; b=m3j0RBJ6ABSdSDbvhiyAHrMo/LhxMQ46FrBfE1dLTEg1QBoEgjBbWszyXI/taVbBk9 NYOv6CgtWWp91mf/uD9kkHmp9xjBF0rKG5draE24jl7RFUVfn9/pLH9iJwYF1r62sp76 x5Vr6Jyblt9y36iBFHeGlC7gqrfpJknKzPYeugjUKzPMgpbypI1bxLRceVX95TdJZCuZ yoeonHdJfTYfCRjhGqqWL1g84qyfs2VYp7o0EXs6UjkJbUbbDArDwpJIashfzYPWIDHg wEKrKbIaqHX4RGPwsd2DcVURfLJ+qc/MzHeLUZFrrQiaz7Q4npibvLr6UUsK+LhBc+hC A6dQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=C+Nj54H4LNUL5JHGnndmtGk28+ETsWMa3osifmpEJc4=; b=kc4pDiiZP0VOw0ThECwO+xUNeJd2yKwHbaWPzDxpU2F4cm52pAdaWSeBE72FEkyG4N PtpiNc/WrgwMrNcEXnIm1HZMGz3Oh8e66iIBio62ckLbWssDPxmv310yiZm0e1DEJ8Zr ZvlW9wWb+hvFqVHH7F0N9ornQUPGRskcGoPbS5inGz/MUO7hInJDAdnGTHlqjp0ikSN8 MgRgCDRyuVkwQyEWc/Sg5YpWopgF8jymWIXrxFDi8jKb8N/hzSjzpMNdxyec0jRmshj3 d1Y6pTY0mm4GAFQX+agRwC7EYudZr5YruJQGqwpnPAiYXvFmWuCfDgD1tudkQ0aHnI1b RWyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIdBtfUBKIZpuBVPfi9naIuLGRWGopBK0JVsaVkvlkJa8bSLUcP/N0BAwlWd34WWN0SmpcXh1ry5LpKTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.8.135 with SMTP id 129mr17873769vki.148.1456905564691; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 23:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.159.32.198 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 23:59:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 07:59:24 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk X-Scan-Signature: 66d07794ca19cd68f7d6cc289cd4ac18 Subject: LF: Old "Coherent" mode Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11455430a7a9da052d0c42a3 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7158 --001a11455430a7a9da052d0c42a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Back in the last millennium, on 73kHz I remember using a BPSK mode called " *Coherent*" by VE1IQ. I do remember generating raw unfiltered BPSK and casually 'ignoring' its sidebands, and also that the abrupt phase transition led to audible clicks from my antenna loading coil Purely out of interest (and because I thought I'd include it in a talk on LF operation I'm giving in a couple of weeks) I searched for any details on t'web. VE2IQ's page still seems to exist, but all references date back to that era - I didn't try downloading the software. In those pre-soundcard days we had to use hardware audio digitisers on receive, and I remember doing a PIC based one to replace the board of TTL logic otherwise needed. Still have a PCB on a shelf here labelled "VE2IQ Interface"; it's just an A/D converter and serial interface to a PC, with 8 bit sampling at 7200Hz. Did *Coherent *morph into Wolf? As they both use the same modulation / baud rate it seems more than coincidence... Andy G4JNT --001a11455430a7a9da052d0c42a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back in the last millennium, on 73kHz I remember usin= g a BPSK mode called "Coherent"=C2=A0 by VE1IQ.=C2=A0=C2= =A0 I do remember generating raw unfiltered BPSK and casually =C2=A0'ig= noring' its sidebands, and also that the abrupt phase transition led to= audible clicks from my antenna loading coil

Purel= y out of interest (and because I thought I'd include it in a talk on LF= operation I'm giving in a couple of weeks) I=C2=A0searched for any det= ails on t'web.=C2=A0=C2=A0 VE2IQ's page still seems to exist, but a= ll references date back to that era - I didn't try downloading the soft= ware.

In those pre-soundcard days we had to use ha= rdware audio digitisers on receive, and I remember doing a PIC based one to= replace=C2=A0the board of TTL logic otherwise needed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Still ha= ve a PCB on a shelf here labelled "VE2IQ Interface";=C2=A0 it'= ;s just an A/D converter and serial interface to a PC, with 8 bit sampling= =C2=A0at 7200Hz.

Did Coherent morph into = Wolf?=C2=A0 As=C2=A0 they both use the same modulation / baud rate it seems= more than coincidence...

Andy=C2=A0 G4JNT
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