From: "Clemens Paul" <cpaul@gmx.net>
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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:35:37 +0100
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Subject: RE: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night
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Hi Rik,

thanks for obeservations and for evaluating the somewhat mysterious propagation
on MW into JN68.
There were other nights when even DH5RAE and DL0ABR didn't spot TA stations
and I was the only one in Europe.

 2016-02-16 05:08   WG2XXM   0.475711   -25   0   EM15lj   5   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   8406   40  
 2016-02-16 05:16   WG2XXM   0.475711   -29   0   EM15lj   5   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   8406   40  
2016-02-18 05:44   WG2XPJ   0.475702   -26   0   FN34lp   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   6228   53
2016-02-19 05:46   WG2XKA   0.475723   -24   0   FN33lq   1   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   6292   53

But then there are nights when only Roelof,PA0RDT or Joe,DF2JP spot TA stations. 

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Rik Strobbe
>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 1:51 PM
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Subject: RE: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night
>
>Hi Stefan, all,
>
> 
>
>to get the facts right: there were many other EU's "listening" 
>at that time (> 30), but any one (you) at less than 500 km 
>from the JN68 group.
>
>So it's not sure how focussed the propagation was. But is 
>nevertheless remarkable that serval other Eu's that are known 
>to have "good ears" didn't copy any TA last night.
>
> 
>
>BTW, in my earlier list I did miss the 05:02 UTC copy at 
>DL4RAJ, the complete sequence is:
>
> 
>
>2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 
>2016-03-07 04:52 WG2XXM 0.475711 -30 0 EM15lj 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 8406 40 
>2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -8 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 
>2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -16 0 DM33xt 5 DH5RAE JN68qv 9352 33 
>2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -22 0 DM33xt 5 DJ0ABR JN68nt 9346 33 
>2016-03-07 05:12 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 
>
>
>2016-03-07 05:00 WG2XKA 0.475723 -25 0 FN33lq 1 DL4RAJ JN68kj 6292 53 
>
> 
>
>It seems that the propagation peaked at +/- 05:00 UTC.
>
>The fact that DL4RAJ copied most of it is probably due to his 
>"good ears" (last night DL4RAJ had 6 copies of EA5DOM, while 
>just 1 for DJ0ABR and nil for DH5RAE).
>
> 
>
>Maybe G3NYK and/or PA0RDT can link strange propagation this to 
>some propagation mechanism / solar event?
>
> 
>
>73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> 
>
>________________________________
>
>Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>[owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens DK7FC 
>[selberdenken@posteo.de]
>Verzonden: maandag 7 maart 2016 11:40
>Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Onderwerp: Re: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night
>
>
>Wow, very impressive.
>As we saw in the past, JN68 is a special field...
>
>The dst plot showed a dramatical dip. On LF we think that 
>propagation must be down for days but on MF i thought there 
>can be miracles. Thus i started the TX over the night. And see 
>here, the miracle happened!
>
>73, Stefan
>
>Am 07.03.2016 09:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe: 
>
>	I just noticed very strange TA propagation on MF last night:
>
>	 
>
>	During a very short period (04:40 - 05:02) 3 US 
>stations were copied in southern Germany, but nowhere else in Europe:
>
>	 
>
>	2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30  0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ 
> JN68kj 9367 33 
>	2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND  0.475740 -16  0  DM33xt  5  
>DH5RAE   JN68qv  9352  33 
>	2016-03-07 05:02  WH2XND  0.475740  -22  0  DM33xt  5  
>DJ0ABR   JN68nt  9346  33 
>	2016-03-07 04:52  WG2XXM  0.475711  -30  0  EM15lj  5  
>DL4RAJ   JN68kj  8406  40 
>	2016-03-07 05:00  WG2XKA  0.475723  -25  0  FN33lq  1  
>DL4RAJ   JN68kj  6292  53 
>
>	 
>
>	The signals were partially very strong (up to -16dB) 
>and the 3 EU stations are located close together.
>
>	Also the distances are remarkable, up to 9367 km.
>
>	Based on WSPRNET data at least a dozen other stations 
>were receiving WSPR in Western Europe at that time, but not a 
>single copy from them!
>
>	 
>
>	During the same time period one German station was 
>copied in the US:
>
>	 
>
>	2016-03-07 04:54  DK7FC  0.475682  -26  0  JN49ik  1  
>WA3TTS/2  EN90xn  6636  298 
>	2016-03-07 05:04  DK7FC  0.475682  -20  0  JN49ik  1  
>WG2XJM   EN91wr  6557  299 
>	2016-03-07 05:04  DK7FC  0.475684  -17  0  JN49ik  1  
>WE2XGR   FN31ls  6099  295 
>	2016-03-07 05:14  DK7FC  0.475680  -22  1  JN49ik  1  
>WG2XKA   FN33lq  5970  297
>
>	 
>
>	Further there was also some trans Pacific DX:
>
>	 
>
>	Hawaii-Australia:
>
>	 
>
>	2016-03-06 10:36  WH2XCR  0.475798  -31  0  BL11je  1  
>VK2XGJ   QF55jl  8278  222 
>	2016-03-06 15:12  VK4YB  0.475617  -24  -1  QG62ku  5  
>WH2XCR   BL11je  7597  50 
>	2016-03-06 15:06  WH2XCR  0.475798  -26  0  BL11je  1  
>VK4YB   QG62ku  7597  227 
>
>	 
>
>	Australia-Japan:
>
>	 
>
>	2016-03-06 15:08  VK3ELV  0.475775  -27  1  QF33bq  5  
>JH1INM   PM95iq  8043  354 
>
>	 
>
>	Hawaii-mainland US:
>
>	 
>
>	2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XKA  0.475724  -28  0  FN33lq  1  
>WH2XCR   BL11je  7945  282 
>	2016-03-06 08:02  WH2XCR  0.475798  -27  -1  BL11je  1  
>WG2XJM   EN91wr  7413  52 
>	2016-03-06 07:48  WG2XJM  0.475782  -22  -1  EN91wr  5  
>WH2XCR   BL11je  7413  278 
>	2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -30  0  BL11je  1  
>SWL/K9   EN61  6844  53 
>	2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -28  0  BL11je  1  
>WB0VAK   EN34ia  6328  50 
>	2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XWS  0.475792  -19  0  DH89  1  
>WA3TTS/2  EN90xn  6153  21 
>	2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XWS  0.475652  -23  0  DH89  1  
>WB0VAK   EN34ia  6144  9 
>	2016-03-06 07:34  WG2XIQ  0.475611  -18  0  EM12mp  5  
>WH2XCR   BL11je  6030  274 
>	2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475799  -27  0  BL11je  1  
>WG2XIQ   EM12  6023  65 
>	2016-03-06 07:34  WG2XXM  0.475712  -13  -1  EM15lj  5  
>WH2XCR   BL11je  6007  272 
>	2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -28  0  BL11je  1  
>WG2XXM   EM15lj  6007  61 
>
>	 
>
>	73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>