Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2L9vB2U000314 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:57:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ahwRu-0007h8-V5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:48:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ahwRu-0007gz-8Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:48:34 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([2a02:2c40:0:c0::25:130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ahwRs-00076o-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:48:33 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 6759B12835D.A6761 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6759B12835D; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:48:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB2.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub2.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650A52003B; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:48:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::edaf:341f:90e:f70e]) by ICTS-S-HUB2.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::8559:ca7c:e195:e15d%26]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:48:25 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" , "rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk" Thread-Topic: bandplan proposal at the next IARU Regon I Interim Meeting (Vienna, 16-17 April 2016) Thread-Index: AdGDVtCNFA2mvLjeRva58iQaEfOtfA== Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:48:24 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E5E57@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E1924@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E1924@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mimectl: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V14.3.123.2 x-originating-ip: [10.112.11.58] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 2a02:2c40:0:c0::25:130 (rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Scan-Signature: d5ac66e7920295f519efeb68ecc59e6f Subject: LF: bandplan proposal at the next IARU Regon I Interim Meeting (Vienna,16-17 April 2016) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E5E57ICTSSMBX1lunaku_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7441 --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E5E57ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, at the next IARU Regon I Interim Meeting (Vienna, 16-17 April 2016) there i= s a proposal that concerns the 630 m band: It is recommended that beacons will be accepted in the plan of usage of the= 472 - 479 kHz band (630 m) in addition to the Recommendation VA14_C4_REC_0= 2: 476 - 477 kHz beacons =96 maximum bandwidth 200 Hz. Maximum power outp= ut 1 W EIRP. Beacon proposals should adhere to beacon recommendations in t= he IARU Region 1 HF Managers' Handbook, and should be approved by the IARU = Region 1 Beacon Coordinator (introduced by NRRL) Besides the fact that I am not a fan of the urge to put everything into str= ict rules and I have doubts about the usefulness of beacons (there are doze= ns of NDB's in and near the 630 m band), I do fear that an "official" beaco= n band might attract people or clubs to put up a nice "tech project" and le= ave us with the QRM. The targeted range (476-477 kHz) is de facto used for QRSS, a some "wideban= d" CW beacons can cause a lot of harm. I wonder if NRRL consulted the few Norwegian hams that are active on 630 m = and if other in societies the band users were asked for advice? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E5E57ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

at the next IARU=  Regon I Interi= m Meeting (Vienna, 16-17 April 2016) there is a proposal that= concerns the 630 m band:

 

It is recommended that beacons will be accepted in the plan of usage of the 472 - 479 kHz ba= nd (630 m) in addition to the Recommenda= tion VA14_C4_REC_02:  476 - 477 kHz beac= ons =96 maximum bandwidth 200 Hz.  Maximum = power output 1 W EIRP.  Beacon prop= osals should ad= here to beacon recommendations in the IARU<= /a> Region 1 HF= Managers' Handbook, and should be&= nbsp;approved by the=  IARU Region 1 Beacon Coordinator (introduced by NRRL= = )

 

Besides the fact=  that I am&= nbsp;not a fan of the urge to put everything into strict rules and I have doubts about the usefulness of = ;beacons (there are dozens of NDB's in and near the 630 m band), I do&nbs= p;fear that an<= a target=3D"_blank"> "official" beacon band might attract people or clubs to put up a nice "tech project" and leave = ;us with the QRM.

The targeted rang= e (476-477 kHz) is de facto used for QRSS, a some "wideband" CW=  beacons can cause a lot of harm.

 

I wonder if NRRL=  consulted the few Norwegian ha= ms that are act= ive on 630 m and if other= in societies the band users were asked for advice= ?

 

73, Rik &nbs= p;ON7YD - OR7T

 

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