Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u27CuhmT028087 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:56:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1acudE-0006Cm-Rn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:51:28 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1acudE-0006Cd-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:51:28 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([2a02:2c40:0:c0::25:130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1acudB-0000fs-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:51:27 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 90CAC12834D.A9E45 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CAC12834D for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:51:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E18D2003B for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:51:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::edaf:341f:90e:f70e]) by ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::a470:76b3:406d:2b1a%27]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 13:51:17 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night Thread-Index: AdF4SXnuQ0F1w0AiRC+cilBTKcsY9QAC9hwAAAO3Z8QAAvc2KQ== Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:51:16 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD9C8@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <8D3450D43313D4D-1358-E77F@webmail-vd003.sysops.aol.com> <56DC29C8.3010604@posteo.de> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD4BF@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be>,<56DD2595.5040506@no3m.net> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD7D8@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be>,<56DD5A82.70203@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <56DD5A82.70203@posteo.de> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mimectl: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V14.3.123.2 x-originating-ip: [10.112.11.15] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 2a02:2c40:0:c0::25:130 (rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Scan-Signature: ea563abf4a6f6bcc595ed299b802c617 Subject: RE: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD9C8ICTSSMBX1lunaku_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7238 --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD9C8ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, all, to get the facts right: there were many other EU's "listening" at that time= (> 30), but any one (you) at less than 500 km from the JN68 group. So it's not sure how focussed the propagation was. But is nevertheless rema= rkable that serval other Eu's that are known to have "good ears" didn't cop= y any TA last night. BTW, in my earlier list I did miss the 05:02 UTC copy at DL4RAJ, the comple= te sequence is: 2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 2016-03-07 04:52 WG2XXM 0.475711 -30 0 EM15lj 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 8406 40 2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -8 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -16 0 DM33xt 5 DH5RAE JN68qv 9352 33 2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -22 0 DM33xt 5 DJ0ABR JN68nt 9346 33 2016-03-07 05:12 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 2016-03-07 05:00 WG2XKA 0.475723 -25 0 FN33lq 1 DL4RAJ JN68kj 6292 53 It seems that the propagation peaked at +/- 05:00 UTC. The fact that DL4RAJ copied most of it is probably due to his "good ears" (= last night DL4RAJ had 6 copies of EA5DOM, while just 1 for DJ0ABR and nil f= or DH5RAE). Maybe G3NYK and/or PA0RDT can link strange propagation this to some propaga= tion mechanism / solar event? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens DK7FC [selberdenken@posteo.de] Verzonden: maandag 7 maart 2016 11:40 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night Wow, very impressive. As we saw in the past, JN68 is a special field... The dst plot showed a dramatical dip. On LF we think that propagation must = be down for days but on MF i thought there can be miracles. Thus i started = the TX over the night. And see here, the miracle happened! 73, Stefan Am 07.03.2016 09:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe: I just noticed very strange TA propagation on MF last night: During a very short period (04:40 - 05:02) 3 US stations were copied in sou= thern Germany, but nowhere else in Europe: 2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -16 0 DM33xt 5 DH5RAE JN68qv 9352 = 33 2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -22 0 DM33xt 5 DJ0ABR JN68nt 934= 6 33 2016-03-07 04:52 WG2XXM 0.475711 -30 0 EM15lj 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 840= 6 40 2016-03-07 05:00 WG2XKA 0.475723 -25 0 FN33lq 1 DL4RAJ JN68kj 629= 2 53 The signals were partially very strong (up to -16dB) and the 3 EU stations = are located close together. Also the distances are remarkable, up to 9367 km. Based on WSPRNET data at least a dozen other stations were receiving WSPR i= n Western Europe at that time, but not a single copy from them! During the same time period one German station was copied in the US: 2016-03-07 04:54 DK7FC 0.475682 -26 0 JN49ik 1 WA3TTS/2 EN90xn 663= 6 298 2016-03-07 05:04 DK7FC 0.475682 -20 0 JN49ik 1 WG2XJM EN91wr 6557= 299 2016-03-07 05:04 DK7FC 0.475684 -17 0 JN49ik 1 WE2XGR FN31ls 6099= 295 2016-03-07 05:14 DK7FC 0.475680 -22 1 JN49ik 1 WG2XKA FN33lq 5970= 297 Further there was also some trans Pacific DX: Hawaii-Australia: 2016-03-06 10:36 WH2XCR 0.475798 -31 0 BL11je 1 VK2XGJ QF55jl 827= 8 222 2016-03-06 15:12 VK4YB 0.475617 -24 -1 QG62ku 5 WH2XCR BL11je 759= 7 50 2016-03-06 15:06 WH2XCR 0.475798 -26 0 BL11je 1 VK4YB QG62ku 7597= 227 Australia-Japan: 2016-03-06 15:08 VK3ELV 0.475775 -27 1 QF33bq 5 JH1INM PM95iq 804= 3 354 Hawaii-mainland US: 2016-03-06 07:58 WG2XKA 0.475724 -28 0 FN33lq 1 WH2XCR BL11je 794= 5 282 2016-03-06 08:02 WH2XCR 0.475798 -27 -1 BL11je 1 WG2XJM EN91wr 74= 13 52 2016-03-06 07:48 WG2XJM 0.475782 -22 -1 EN91wr 5 WH2XCR BL11je 74= 13 278 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475798 -30 0 BL11je 1 SWL/K9 EN61 6844 = 53 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475798 -28 0 BL11je 1 WB0VAK EN34ia 632= 8 50 2016-03-06 07:58 WG2XWS 0.475792 -19 0 DH89 1 WA3TTS/2 EN90xn 6153= 21 2016-03-06 07:58 WG2XWS 0.475652 -23 0 DH89 1 WB0VAK EN34ia 6144 = 9 2016-03-06 07:34 WG2XIQ 0.475611 -18 0 EM12mp 5 WH2XCR BL11je 603= 0 274 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475799 -27 0 BL11je 1 WG2XIQ EM12 6023 = 65 2016-03-06 07:34 WG2XXM 0.475712 -13 -1 EM15lj 5 WH2XCR BL11je 60= 07 272 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475798 -28 0 BL11je 1 WG2XXM EM15lj 600= 7 61 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD9C8ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <7003BB365BE4614E9E371A2E0AC5FB35@luna.kuleuven.be> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Stefan, all,

 

to get the facts= right: there were many other<= /a> EU's "listening= " at that time (> 30), but any one (you) = at less than 50= 0 km from the JN68<= /a> group.

So it's not<= a target=3D"_blank"> sure how focussed the propagat= ion was. But is = ;nevertheless remarkable=  that serval other Eu's&nb= sp;that are known to have "good ears" didn't copy any TA last night.

 

BTW, in my earlier list I did miss the 05:02 UTC copy at DL4RAJ, the complete sequence is:

 

2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ=  JN68kj 9367 33
2016-03-07 04:52&nb= sp;WG2XXM 0.475711 -30 0 EM15lj 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 8406 40
2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -8 0 DM= 33xt 5 DL4RAJ J= N68kj 9367 33
2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -16 0=  DM33xt 5 DH5RAE JN68qv 9352 33
2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -22 0 D= M33xt 5 DJ0ABR = JN68nt 9346 33
2016-03-07 05:12 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33

2016-03-07 05:00 WG2XKA 0.475723 -25 0 FN33lq 1 DL4RAJ=  JN68kj 6292 53

 

It seems tha= t the propagation&nb= sp;peaked at +/- 05:00 UTC.

The fact that DL4RAJ copied= most of it is probably due to his=  "good ears" (last night<= /a> DL4RAJ had 6 copies of EA5DOM, while just 1 for DJ0ABR and nil for DH= 5RAE).

 

Maybe G3NYK and/o= r PA0RDT can link strange prop= agation this to=  some propagation mechanism / solar event?

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens DK7FC [selberdenken@posteo.de] Verzonden: maandag 7 maart 2016 11:40
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night

Wow, very impressive.
As we saw in the past, JN68 is a special field...

The dst plot showed a dramatical dip. On LF we think that propagation must = be down for days but on MF i thought there can be miracles. Thus i started = the TX over the night. And see here, the miracle happened!

73, Stefan

Am 07.03.2016 09:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe:

I just noticed very strange TA propagation = ;on MF last night:

 

During a very short period (04:40 - 05:02) 3 US stations&= nbsp;were copied in southern Germany, but nowhere = else in Europe:

 

2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740&n= bsp;-30  0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ  JN68kj = 9367 33
2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND  0.475740 -16  0 = ; DM33xt  5  DH5RAE   JN68qv &= nbsp;9352  33
2016-03-07 05:02  WH2XND  0.475740  -22  0&nb= sp; DM33xt  5  DJ0ABR   JN68nt = ; 9346  33
2016-03-07 04:52  WG2XXM  0.475711  -30  0&nb= sp; EM15lj  5  DL4RAJ   JN68kj = ; 8406  40
2016-03-07 05:00  WG2XKA  0.475723  -25  0&nb= sp; FN33lq  1  DL4RAJ   JN68kj = ; 6292  53

 

The signals were partially very strong (up to -= 16dB) and the 3 EU stations are located close together.

Also the distances are remarkable, up to 9367 km.

Based on WSPRNET data at least a dozen other st= ations were receiving WSPR in Western Europe at th= at time, but not a single copy from them!

 

During the same time period one German station = was copied in the US:

 

2016-03-07 04:54  DK7FC  = ;0.475682  -26  0  JN49ik  1  WA3TT= S/2  EN90xn  6636  298
2016-03-07 05:04  DK7FC  0.475682  -20  0&nbs= p; JN49ik  1  WG2XJM   EN91wr =  6557  299
2016-03-07 05:04  DK7FC  0.475684  -17  0&nbs= p; JN49ik  1  WE2XGR   FN31ls =  6099  295
2016-03-07 05:14  DK7FC  0.475680  -22  1&nbs= p; JN49ik  1  WG2XKA   FN33lq =  5970  297

 

Further there was also some trans Pacific DX:

 

Hawaii-Australia:

 

2016-03-06 10:36  WH2XCR &nbs= p;0.475798  -31  0  BL11je  1  VK2X= GJ   QF55jl  8278  222
2016-03-06 15:12  VK4YB  0.475617  -24  -1&nb= sp; QG62ku  5  WH2XCR   BL11je = ; 7597  50
2016-03-06 15:06  WH2XCR  0.475798  -26  0&nb= sp; BL11je  1  VK4YB   QG62ku =  7597  227

 

Australia-Japan:

 

2016-03-06 15:08  VK3ELV &nbs= p;0.475775  -27  1  QF33bq  5  JH1I= NM   PM95iq  8043  354

 

Hawaii-mainland US:

 

2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XKA &nbs= p;0.475724  -28  0  FN33lq  1  WH2X= CR   BL11je  7945  282
2016-03-06 08:02  WH2XCR  0.475798  -27  -1&n= bsp; BL11je  1  WG2XJM   EN91wr&nbs= p; 7413  52
2016-03-06 07:48  WG2XJM  0.475782  -22  -1&n= bsp; EN91wr  5  WH2XCR   BL11je&nbs= p; 7413  278
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -30  0&nb= sp; BL11je  1  SWL/K9   EN61 &= nbsp;6844  53
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -28  0&nb= sp; BL11je  1  WB0VAK   EN34ia = ; 6328  50
2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XWS  0.475792  -19  0&nb= sp; DH89  1  WA3TTS/2  EN90xn  = ;6153  21
2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XWS  0.475652  -23  0&nb= sp; DH89  1  WB0VAK   EN34ia &= nbsp;6144  9
2016-03-06 07:34  WG2XIQ  0.475611  -18  0&nb= sp; EM12mp  5  WH2XCR   BL11je = ; 6030  274
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475799  -27  0&nb= sp; BL11je  1  WG2XIQ   EM12 &= nbsp;6023  65
2016-03-06 07:34  WG2XXM  0.475712  -13  -1&n= bsp; EM15lj  5  WH2XCR   BL11je&nbs= p; 6007  272
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -28  0&nb= sp; BL11je  1  WG2XXM   EM15lj = ; 6007  61

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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