Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1181; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2CJPioI011806 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:25:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aep7c-0007gL-1Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:22:44 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aep7b-0007gC-Mj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:22:43 +0000 Received: from omr-m007e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aep7Z-0007tT-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:22:42 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.109]) by omr-m007e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B006538000AD for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from White (ipbcc05f3c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [188.192.95.60]) by mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id D1B123800008B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:22:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6F36643B84E548AE9521624BBF5FF87D@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <56DEAE40.8000809@tiscali.co.uk> <56DEF9AE.7060203@posteo.de> <56E1F553.1080306@abelian.org> <56E1FC61.8090400@posteo.de> <56E34476.4060707@gmx.net> <56E3C9CC.1030704@abelian.org> <56E43F1E.2020400@posteo.de> <56E44EC3.8050404@abelian.org> <56E4526B.7010804@abelian.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:22:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1457810559; bh=41mt4WJ3srHIafjIz63x5TK6mVW8mzeVr90doUwCtSM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JkZ0YI4ac2+BRSAnDYHnhfIy06MBib7FcYFBzPYbuwoe2zw7u6r/WK0BDEbHGZ0uC WQDi8uhZZhGX1AYoHzRo8so9gns/U5WZ4ksyNusGE+/K4untm6aLI4GcGw8plQZcxu d89gvZDg41IUOy9MUJ00KgK/HWjfYNuowhtkYVF8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a856d56e46c7c0731 X-AOL-IP: 188.192.95.60 X-Scan-Signature: 350b42a0642244046701ed1a68bf48aa Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut from Todmorden Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01D17C9C.E9E3D520" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7316 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D17C9C.E9E3D520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...recording 137.45 to 137.55 kHz here as well. With 4 m effective height, radiation resistance for vertical = polarisation would be around 5 milliohm, so no real risk of breaking ERP = rules (yet ;-). If ground resistivity is not too low there might = additionally be some high-angle horizontally polarized radiation.=20 Nice line on Gary's grabber indeed. At larger ranges into Europe, 136175 = might be a bit ambiguous as it coincides with one of the Russian Loran = lines at 6.25 Hz multiples. BTW Gary's grabber also showed a long dash on 8270.005 Hz this afternoon = - presumably another local test signal? Best wishes, Markus (DF6NM) From: Domenico IZ7SLZ=20 Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:01 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut from Todmorden hello Paul, my LF receiver is active and it is recording audio for Ebnaut-RX. GL. 73 and good weekend to all group. Domenico, iz7slz Il giorno sab 12 mar 2016 alle 18:34 Paul Nicholson = ha scritto: Could be? Carrier on air 136.175 kHz intermittent since 16:40, continuous since 16:54 and later will move to a frequency in the OPDS band for some EbNaut. > 20160312_170553.jpg That reminds me, I need to stock up a bit with FKP caps! I haven't measured the antenna current, I'll have to rig something up to measure that. It's probably 2 or 3 amps. The wire is about 500m but the average height is only about 4m and it is surrounded and supported by lots of trees. I expect the radiation resistance is very low. In fact I'm counting on it otherwise I'm breaking the law! > That's certainly the best way to go, using an isolating > transformer at the end of the coax. Prevents you from > unwanted currents through the house / mains earth. Yes, putting another transformer at the far end of the coax has improved things considerably. I had some interference in the house but now that's gone. A PC monitor with touch button controls was merrily switching itself on and off all the time, now it is fine. The ADSL was complaining and resetting, now it has no problem. In a while I'll go out and see if the mud patch is steaming :) Earlier I had a tub of salt water simmering. This is fun! -- Paul Nicholson -- ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D17C9C.E9E3D520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...recording 137.45 to 137.55 kHz here = as=20 well.
 
With 4 m effective height, = radiation=20 resistance for vertical polarisation would be around 5 milliohm, so no = real risk=20 of breaking ERP rules (yet ;-). If ground resistivity is not too = low there=20 might additionally be some high-angle horizontally polarized=20 radiation. 
 
Nice line on Gary's grabber indeed. At = larger=20 ranges into Europe, 136175 might be a bit ambiguous as it coincides = with=20 one of the Russian Loran lines at 6.25 Hz = multiples.
 
BTW Gary's grabber also showed a long = dash on=20 8270.005 Hz this afternoon - presumably another local test = signal?
 
Best wishes,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut from Todmorden

hello Paul,

my LF receiver = is active=20 and it is recording audio for Ebnaut-RX.
GL.

73 and good = weekend to=20 all group.

Domenico, iz7slz
Il giorno sab 12 mar 2016 alle 18:34 Paul Nicholson = <vlf0403@abelian.org> ha=20 scritto:
Could be?  Carrier on air = 136.175=20 kHz intermittent since 16:40,
continuous since 16:54 and later = will move=20 to a frequency in
the OPDS band for some EbNaut.
 
 > 20160312_170553.jpg

That reminds me, I need = to stock=20 up a bit with FKP caps!

I haven't measured the antenna = current, I'll=20 have to rig
something up to measure that.  It's probably 2 = or 3=20 amps.
The wire is about 500m but the average height is only about = 4m
and it is surrounded and supported by lots of trees.  I=20 expect
the radiation resistance is very low.  In fact I'm=20 counting
on it otherwise I'm breaking the law!

 > = That's=20 certainly the best way to go, using an isolating
 > = transformer=20 at the end of the coax. Prevents you from
 > unwanted = currents=20 through the house / mains earth.

Yes, putting another = transformer at=20 the far end of the coax
has improved things considerably.  I = had=20 some interference in
the house but now that's gone.  A PC = monitor=20 with touch button
controls was merrily switching itself on and = off all=20 the time,
now it is fine.  The ADSL was complaining and = resetting,=20 now
it has no problem.

In a while I'll go out and see if = the mud=20 patch is steaming :)
Earlier I had a tub of salt water = simmering. =20  This is fun!

--
Paul=20 = Nicholson
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