Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u28F7SuY032092 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:07:28 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1adJ6h-0002Nx-Oh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:59:31 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1adJ6h-0002No-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:59:31 +0000 Received: from rgout02.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1adJ6f-0005Gz-2y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:59:30 +0000 X-OWM-Source-IP: 81.129.182.138 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090204.56DEE8CF.01CC,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=38/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.3.8.134517:17:38.936,ip=81.129.182.138,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __RUS_SUBJ_ALL_UCASE_1251, __RUS_SUBJ_ALL_UCASE_KOI8R, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[138.182.129.81.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (81.129.182.138) by rgout02.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 56DDD3160017773B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 14:59:16 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1457449158; bh=GNDslP4hHE1Yn/L7ls+4MuBKRqgIHotviIG4lPWKPRE=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=OPp43kbgBjLsn2IRL+zwXOaZbYVgBGGMds0xO6f82iGPSFxrPrnjlMHIeJEOrDw7g7UIk9rLrn1EwSD4UB+WdQmCRtXPZGgHyJ5+WTAfd9ZDqUw7LR2+Mopqzu6Tqb4zP3LYsCpxwiaGjER5bd9sGW9oV3KYf2+uaZhf/p9TISk= Message-ID: <6D61ED7030E54FB69566773E90156608@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: , <56DB3FC7.22052.7963D3@roelof.ndb.demon.nl>, <56DEE5AA.32359.3F8891@roelof.ndb.demon.nl> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 14:59:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: 896f9ee4f10c5db37812c155e804756d Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA CW 477.7 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7263 Hi Roelof, thank you for those comments, that was my feeling but there is so much recorded informationI thought it was worth a look and sticking my neck out to see if anyone would say I was all wrong :-)) Yes for preference I would use a continuous carrier/signal but that is not always possible. Thanks and Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 2:46 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA CW 477.7 kHz > Hello all, > > Attached last night's reception of VO1NA. > Between 01:15 and 01:25 UTC, marginal aural copy was possible in CW > mode and good aural copy in Linrad's coherent mode. > As can be seen, the band noise is much lower than the previous > night. > > Alan, regarding the use of WSPR for propagation study, due to the > rapid fading on 475 kHz, a continuous signal is called for and most > WSPR stations don't provide this. > > The S/N indication of WSPR is nice, but useless for propagation > study as the background noise shows a lot of variation over the > course of the night and from night to night as can be seen in my > overnight Linrad fast playback screen shots. > > Best regards, > Roelof > ==================================================================== > From: Roelof Bakker, PAoRDT > Location: Middelburg, Zealand SW Netherlands, 51 30 02 N, 03 36 02 E > Locator: JO11tm > Receiver hardware: Afedri SDR > Receiver software: Linrad > Aerial: pa0rdt-mini-whip, 5 metre up in a hawthorn tree. > ==================================================================== > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The following section of this message contains a file attachment > prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. > If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, > you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. > If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. > > ---- File information ----------- > File: VO1NA20160308.gif > Date: 8 Mar 2016, 15:06 > Size: 138310 bytes. > Type: GIF-image >