Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u27Am9x5027811 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:48:09 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1acsdJ-0005tT-Al for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:43:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1acsdI-0005tK-Ur for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:43:24 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1acsdG-0000GV-V8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:43:23 +0000 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E321620D94 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:41:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3qJbll406hz5vTX for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 11:40:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56DD5A82.70203@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:40:02 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8D3450D43313D4D-1358-E77F@webmail-vd003.sysops.aol.com> <56DC29C8.3010604@posteo.de> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD4BF@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be>,<56DD2595.5040506@no3m.net> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD7D8@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444DD7D8@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> X-Scan-Signature: 16a6530e4735ccb856cf9bc7c6cb9773 Subject: Re: LF: strange MF TA propagation last night Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010405020402020608000901" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7236 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010405020402020608000901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, very impressive. As we saw in the past, JN68 is a special field... The dst plot showed a dramatical dip. On LF we think that propagation must be down for days but on MF i thought there can be miracles. Thus i started the TX over the night. And see here, the miracle happened! 73, Stefan Am 07.03.2016 09:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe: > > I just noticed very strange TA propagation on MF last night: > > During a very short period (04:40 - 05:02) 3 US stations were copied > in southern Germany, but nowhere else in Europe: > > /2016-03-07 > 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30 0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 9367 33 // > 2016-03-07 > 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -16 0 DM33xt 5 DH5RAE JN68qv 9352 33 > 2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND 0.475740 -22 > 0 DM33xt 5 DJ0ABR JN68nt 9346 33 > 2016-03-07 04:52 WG2XXM 0.475711 -30 > 0 EM15lj 5 DL4RAJ JN68kj 8406 40 > 2016-03-07 05:00 WG2XKA 0.475723 -25 > 0 FN33lq 1 DL4RAJ JN68kj 6292 53 / > > The signals were partially very strong (up to -16dB) and the 3 EU > stations are located close together. > > Also the distances are remarkable, up to 9367 km. > > Based on WSPRNET data at least a > dozen other stations were receiving WSPR in Western Europe at that > time, but not a single copy from them! > > During the same time period one German station was copied in the US: > > /2016-03-07 04:54 DK7FC 0.475682 -26 > 0 JN49ik 1 WA3TTS/2 EN90xn 6636 298 > 2016-03-07 05:04 DK7FC 0.475682 -20 > 0 JN49ik 1 WG2XJM EN91wr 6557 299 > 2016-03-07 05:04 DK7FC 0.475684 -17 > 0 JN49ik 1 WE2XGR FN31ls 6099 295 > 2016-03-07 05:14 DK7FC 0.475680 -22 > 1 JN49ik 1 WG2XKA FN33lq 5970 297/ > > Further there was also some trans Pacific DX: > > Hawaii-Australia: > > /2016-03-06 10:36 WH2XCR 0.475798 -31 > 0 BL11je 1 VK2XGJ QF55jl 8278 222 > 2016-03-06 15:12 VK4YB 0.475617 -24 > -1 QG62ku 5 WH2XCR BL11je 7597 50 > 2016-03-06 15:06 WH2XCR 0.475798 -26 > 0 BL11je 1 VK4YB QG62ku 7597 227 / > > Australia-Japan: > > /2016-03-06 15:08 VK3ELV 0.475775 -27 > 1 QF33bq 5 JH1INM PM95iq 8043 354 / > > Hawaii-mainland US: > > /2016-03-06 07:58 WG2XKA 0.475724 -28 > 0 FN33lq 1 WH2XCR BL11je 7945 282 > 2016-03-06 08:02 WH2XCR 0.475798 -27 > -1 BL11je 1 WG2XJM EN91wr 7413 52 > 2016-03-06 07:48 WG2XJM 0.475782 -22 > -1 EN91wr 5 WH2XCR BL11je 7413 278 > 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475798 -30 > 0 BL11je 1 SWL/K9 EN61 6844 53 > 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475798 -28 > 0 BL11je 1 WB0VAK EN34ia 6328 50 > 2016-03-06 07:58 WG2XWS 0.475792 -19 > 0 DH89 1 WA3TTS/2 EN90xn 6153 21 > 2016-03-06 07:58 WG2XWS 0.475652 -23 > 0 DH89 1 WB0VAK EN34ia 6144 9 > 2016-03-06 07:34 WG2XIQ 0.475611 -18 > 0 EM12mp 5 WH2XCR BL11je 6030 274 > 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475799 -27 > 0 BL11je 1 WG2XIQ EM12 6023 65 > 2016-03-06 07:34 WG2XXM 0.475712 -13 > -1 EM15lj 5 WH2XCR BL11je 6007 272 > 2016-03-06 07:32 WH2XCR 0.475798 -28 > 0 BL11je 1 WG2XXM EM15lj 6007 61 / > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > --------------010405020402020608000901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, very impressive.
As we saw in the past, JN68 is a special field...

The dst plot showed a dramatical dip. On LF we think that propagation must be down for days but on MF i thought there can be miracles. Thus i started the TX over the night. And see here, the miracle happened!

73, Stefan

Am 07.03.2016 09:15, schrieb Rik Strobbe:

I just noticed very strange TA propagation on MF last night:

 

During a very short period (04:40 - 05:02) 3 US stations were copied in southern Germany, but nowhere else in Europe:

 

2016-03-07 04:40 WH2XND 0.475740 -30  0 DM33xt 5 DL4RAJ  JN68kj 9367 33
2016-03-07 05:02 WH2XND  0.475740 -16  0  DM33xt  5  DH5RAE   JN68qv  9352  33
2016-03-07 05:02  WH2XND  0.475740  -22  0  DM33xt  5  DJ0ABR   JN68nt  9346  33
2016-03-07 04:52  WG2XXM  0.475711  -30  0  EM15lj  5  DL4RAJ   JN68kj  8406  40
2016-03-07 05:00  WG2XKA  0.475723  -25  0  FN33lq  1  DL4RAJ   JN68kj  6292  53

 

The signals were partially very strong (up to -16dB) and the 3 EU stations are located close together.

Also the distances are remarkable, up to 9367 km.

Based on WSPRNET data at least a dozen other stations were receiving WSPR in Western Europe at that time, but not a single copy from them!

 

During the same time period one German station was copied in the US:

 

2016-03-07 04:54  DK7FC  0.475682  -26  0  JN49ik  1  WA3TTS/2  EN90xn  6636  298
2016-03-07 05:04  DK7FC  0.475682  -20  0  JN49ik  1  WG2XJM   EN91wr  6557  299
2016-03-07 05:04  DK7FC  0.475684  -17  0  JN49ik  1  WE2XGR   FN31ls  6099  295
2016-03-07 05:14  DK7FC  0.475680  -22  1  JN49ik  1  WG2XKA   FN33lq  5970  297

 

Further there was also some trans Pacific DX:

 

Hawaii-Australia:

 

2016-03-06 10:36  WH2XCR  0.475798  -31  0  BL11je  1  VK2XGJ   QF55jl  8278  222
2016-03-06 15:12  VK4YB  0.475617  -24  -1  QG62ku  5  WH2XCR   BL11je  7597  50
2016-03-06 15:06  WH2XCR  0.475798  -26  0  BL11je  1  VK4YB   QG62ku  7597  227

 

Australia-Japan:

 

2016-03-06 15:08  VK3ELV  0.475775  -27  1  QF33bq  5  JH1INM   PM95iq  8043  354

 

Hawaii-mainland US:

 

2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XKA  0.475724  -28  0  FN33lq  1  WH2XCR   BL11je  7945  282
2016-03-06 08:02  WH2XCR  0.475798  -27  -1  BL11je  1  WG2XJM   EN91wr  7413  52
2016-03-06 07:48  WG2XJM  0.475782  -22  -1  EN91wr  5  WH2XCR   BL11je  7413  278
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -30  0  BL11je  1  SWL/K9   EN61  6844  53
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -28  0  BL11je  1  WB0VAK   EN34ia  6328  50
2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XWS  0.475792  -19  0  DH89  1  WA3TTS/2  EN90xn  6153  21
2016-03-06 07:58  WG2XWS  0.475652  -23  0  DH89  1  WB0VAK   EN34ia  6144  9
2016-03-06 07:34  WG2XIQ  0.475611  -18  0  EM12mp  5  WH2XCR   BL11je  6030  274
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475799  -27  0  BL11je  1  WG2XIQ   EM12  6023  65
2016-03-06 07:34  WG2XXM  0.475712  -13  -1  EM15lj  5  WH2XCR   BL11je  6007  272
2016-03-06 07:32  WH2XCR  0.475798  -28  0  BL11je  1  WG2XXM   EM15lj  6007  61

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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