Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2LEBhpI000906 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:11:43 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ai0Tz-0000HM-Kl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:06:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ai0Tz-0000HD-71 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:06:59 +0000 Received: from omr-m008e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ai0Tw-00081l-D1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:06:58 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.175]) by omr-m008e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8E5EB380037C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-acd01f.mail.aol.com (core-acd01.mail.aol.com [172.27.22.11]) by mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C18BE38000082 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.35.17.16 by webprd-a94.mail.aol.com (10.72.96.227) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:06:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:06:52 -0400 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <153997ff264-61b6-6f89@webprd-a94.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <56EF29D9.9060902@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [192.35.17.16] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1458569213; bh=fVf6JwcGPrscW38tG4Vx8gYb86zyiW6V4aGA1Qz6y2A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GPekjpyigWKOb/6Q2MOgf6y/t83d+HRzfTGrXEm+qmZNrkFIcR0dP/IS3ZYryzCL1 OCOhwsBK1I5CIOfacQ5zMxedRbs7aOY9f1nUlXYTBcSpAVphmUJRTC1sSzyHMBP4zn A7xBhZXJ/zHfbg3zOVEvOkTKm0lN+vLwTg4pm1is= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeaf56effffc329e X-Scan-Signature: 3d5b8cd6516ff44ac46de53952029be0 Subject: Re: LF: JT9 Activity right now Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35377_1203300470.1458569212514" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7448 ------=_Part_35377_1203300470.1458569212514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes it was fun again last night! Many thanks to YO2IS, IZ7SLZ, SP9DNO, DL4Y= HF, G4GIR, DL6TY and DG3LV for the fine QSO's (RX log at http://df6nm.bplac= ed.net/MF/jt9_party_160320.txt ).=20 =20 A further software modification allowed me to start transmitting a few seco= nds late, making the "all-hand-made" contacts much easier. In case you ever= find the need to transmit JT9 on an AD9850 or FE5680-A, the commandline to= ol is at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/MF/ddsjt9.zip (but it won't run under 64-= bit Windows versions). =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Tobias DG3LV An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 20 Mrz 2016 11:54 pm Betreff: Re: Re: LF: JT9 Activity right now Hi Markus ! reading this, thank you for a truly handmade JT9-QSO ! I think this is what they call a "long delayed echo" on shortwave : your=20 CQ at 22:03h and 22:05h, my anweres at 22:04h and 22:06h, then "some=20 seconds later" your absolute perfect sequence of answers at 22:18h to=20 22:24h. I suppose our radiowaves had been travelling to the sun and=20 beeing bounced back by the outer skirts of the sun-halo, isn't it ? But it had worked out, and that is what counts. So thank you for a=20 somewhat special QSO at this fine weekend party ! (BTW : DL3NDR had written a fine modification article for a simple=20 softrock RxTx at 475kHz. It does work very well.) 73 de dg3lv Tobias Am 20.03.2016 um 10:22 schrieb Markus Vester: > Thank you Vinny, for the nice idea and the invitation to the party! > For me, it sure was a lot of fun, and resulted in a number of JT9 QSO's > with OR7T, DG0RG, SV8CS, SV3DVO, DL6II, DD2UJ, IW4DXW, LA8AV, F6CNI, and > DK7FC. Most signals were promptly decodable (except for my report from > DL6II which was lost due to temporary drift). A copy of my receive log > is at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/MF/jt9_party_160319.txt . > But operating workflow was not easy for me. I don't have an MF SSB > transmitter available here, just an AD8950 DDS-board with a three-wire > serial interface. So I decided to modify my homemade WSPR software, such > that it reads a message from the command line, converts it to tone > numbers by calling Joe's JT9CODE.EXE, and plays it at the beginning of > the next minute. Lacking the "late-start feature", the text had to be > typed and ready on time, and it was practically impossible to > immediately reply to a decoded message. This was further exacerbated by > the lack of automatic message generation ("three click QSO"), > and some uncertainties of shorthand versus free-text length. I'm sorry > if I have been taxing the patience of my QSO partners! > Regarding the receive software, if I had two free wishes this is what I > would suggest: > - Show decodes as spectrogram labels: > Coming from visual QRSS, I like to "see" who I work. With many stations > in the spectrogram, it can be challenging to keep an oversight on who is > who, and on which frequency. It would be nice to see the decoded > messages as labels near or on the traces in a wide horizontal > spectrogram. replying by clicking on colour-highlighted labels would > seem more intuitive than clicking in the separate text decode window. > - Show partial decodes: > When the signal is not too weak, the software could already attempt to > decode a message before it has been completely received. Decoding zero > padded audio (e.g. two extra times after 30 and 40 seconds) would give > the operator significantly more time to think up an > appropriate (non-automatic) response. > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > *From:* Vincent Stallbaum > *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 10:38 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: JT9 Activity right now > > Ufb activity right now with a few new stations in JT9 mode. Feel free to > join the QSO party! > > 73 > Vincent, DL6II ------=_Part_35377_1203300470.1458569212514 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes it was fun again last night! Many thanks to YO2IS, IZ7SLZ, SP9DNO,= DL4YHF, G4GIR, DL6TY and DG3LV for the fine QSO's (RX log at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/MF= /jt9_party_160320.txt ).
 
A further software modification allowed me to start transmitting a few= seconds late, making the "all-hand-made" contacts much easier. In case you= ever find the need to transmit JT9 on an AD9850 or FE5680-A, the commandli= ne tool is at http://df6= nm.bplaced.net/MF/ddsjt9.zip (but it won't run under 64-bit Windows ver= sions).
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Tobias DG3LV <DG3LV@gmx.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 20 Mrz 2016 11:54 pm
Betreff: Re: Re: LF: JT9 Activity right now

Hi Markus !

reading this, thank you for a truly handmade JT9-QSO !

I think this is what they call a "long delayed echo" on shortwave : your CQ at 22:03h and 22:05h, my anweres at 22:04h and 22:06h, then "some
seconds later" your absolute perfect sequence of answers at 22:18h to
22:24h. I suppose our radiowaves had been travelling to the sun and
beeing bounced back by the outer skirts of the sun-halo, isn't it ?

But it had worked out, and that is what counts. So thank you for a
somewhat special QSO at this fine weekend party !

(BTW : DL3NDR had written a fine modification article for a simple
softrock RxTx at 475kHz. It does work very well.)

73 de dg3lv Tobias

Am 20.03.2016 um 10:22 schrieb Markus Vester:
> Thank you Vinny, for the nice idea and the invitation to the party! > For me, it sure was a lot of fun, and resulted in a number of JT9 QSO'= s
> with OR7T, DG0RG, SV8CS, SV3DVO, DL6II, DD2UJ, IW4DXW, LA8AV, F6CNI, a= nd
> DK7FC. Most signals were promptly decodable (except for my report from=
> DL6II which was lost due to temporary drift). A copy of my receive log=
> is at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/MF/jt9_party_160319.txt .
> But operating workflow was not easy for me. I don't have an MF SSB
> transmitter available here, just an AD8950 DDS-board with a three-wire=
> serial interface. So I decided to modify my homemade WSPR software, su= ch
> that it reads a message from the command line, converts it to tone
> numbers by calling Joe's JT9CODE.EXE, and plays it at the beginning of=
> the next minute. Lacking the "late-start feature", the text had to be<= br> > typed and ready on time, and it was practically impossible to
> immediately reply to a decoded message. This was further exacerbated b= y
> the lack of automatic message generation ("three click QSO"),
> and some uncertainties of shorthand versus free-text length. I'm sorry=
> if I have been taxing the patience of my QSO partners!
> Regarding the receive software, if I had two free wishes this is what = I
> would suggest:
> - Show decodes as spectrogram labels:
> Coming from visual QRSS, I like to "see" who I work. With many station= s
> in the spectrogram, it can be challenging to keep an oversight on who = is
> who, and on which frequency. It would be nice to see the decoded
> messages as labels near or on the traces in a wide horizontal
> spectrogram. replying by clicking on colour-highlighted labels would > seem more intuitive than clicking in the separate text decode window.<= br> > - Show partial decodes:
> When the signal is not too weak, the software could already attempt to=
> decode a message before it has been completely received. Decoding zero=
> padded audio (e.g. two extra times after 30 and 40 seconds) would give=
> the operator significantly more time to think up an
> appropriate (non-automatic) response.
> Best 73,
> Markus (DF6NM)
> *From:* Vincent Stallbaum <mailto:= info@vsas.de>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 10:38 PM
> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org <mailt= o:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> *Subject:* LF: JT9 Activity right now
>
> Ufb activity right now with a few new stations in JT9 mode. Feel free = to
> join the QSO party!
>
> 73
> Vincent, DL6II

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