Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u15DTXrd013280 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 14:29:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aRgJV-0001RL-Ub for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:20:41 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aRgJV-0001RC-4Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:20:41 +0000 Received: from omr-m008e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.7]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aRgIS-0007of-5I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:20:40 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mbb02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.110]) by omr-m008e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 667823800095 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [IPv6:::ffff:192.168.0.14] (ipbcc05f3c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [188.192.95.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbb02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A96A038000093 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:19:15 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" From: Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 14:19:20 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <56B43514.2030903@t-online.de> References: <56B2EC76.90601@t-online.de> <56B34FFA.4050207@posteo.de> <56B3AF3D.30303@t-online.de> <56B3B726.3050002@posteo.de> <56B43514.2030903@t-online.de> x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1454678356; bh=puAE5C8ktVPBpvfrmuYNq49Bn4KCVSsup4SVcdHP4mA=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TO7g/2OeVrosMwBSK/Sz7aTTsjFnX6zo9TPXPH4GhYjrqmoAtf75/FzGDpYWUtTUR 8yvsJIt/nd8KwA1pT7+TXRJfHYx3dbAixTjWTI21EdqPrX1QcUGoC7fOTgbb4hHJmv wi703U23W4GDCscrwwQUKx2Xa0AGh4NuyLDwDrPY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe6e56b4a1534ba8 X-AOL-IP: 188.192.95.60 X-Scan-Signature: e5f33499c82e559d1cf2f25253946608 Message-Id: Subject: AW: LF: activity times and days MF + LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_D8BFEE4D-3F71-4A1B-8B60-7A5640B7D09A_" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6691 --_D8BFEE4D-3F71-4A1B-8B60-7A5640B7D09A_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I think the Loran-C =E2=80=9Cslave=E2=80=9C stations were officially called= =E2=80=9Csecondaries=E2=80=9C, possibly for political correctness. 73, Markus Von: Dr. Wolf Ostwald Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Februar 2016 06:41 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: activity times and days MF + LF Hi Stefan ! no, i was just using the master/slave scheme from LORAN systems as an=20 analogy. As everybody on this reflector is familiar with it ;-) I guess the "master station " should be selected from a view of=20 practicality. It needs a somewhat geographically centered position in EU=20 plus some technical advancedness. Looks to me as if u are in the bowl :-) And yes, the northamericanos are doing this activity thing quite nicely,=20 an european counterpart event would be a timely thing i guess. The kite antenna is intriguing but it is not a normal installation and=20 requires lots of time and weather cooperation. I=C2=B4d reserve that for TA= =20 attempts. Just too much effort for a regular thing to happen. The signals are so loud in EU on MF, even verticals of 10m height only=20 produce enormous signals. I guess a wide audience can play that game. On the other hand . TGIF !!!! 73 de wolf df2py Am 04.02.2016 um 21:40 schrieb DK7FC: > Hi Wolf, > > No no, i don't want to be a master station. And others are no slaves=20 > at all. My signal may be one of the stronger ones :-) but this does=20 > not rise me in a higher position. > Yes it would be interesting to see what is possible here in EU, an=20 > activity day like the Canadians do :-) Also it would help to announce=20 > it "officially", i.e. in the local radio magazines! But then this=20 > requires some planning :-) > But it would be nice to do something with a kite again, when thinking=20 > about events :-) > > 73, Stefan > > Am 04.02.2016 21:06, schrieb Dr. Wolf Ostwald: >> Hi Stefan ! >> well, maybe it would be nice if You can coin an idea about a special=20 >> activity hour on MF per week. It would be like in them ol` days when=20 >> coastal radio stns checked into a circuit. >> Just for the fun of it. >> This evening Dk1IS, IK2DED,IK2CLB all with S9+ signals whooping on=20 >> r-CW. No JT or WSPR needed by them ( no pun intended ) >> You could do the master station and call up "the slaves". Should be=20 >> an interesting picture to see how far European stations could hear=20 >> each other and what area can be covered. >> >> 73 de wolf df2py >> >> > --_D8BFEE4D-3F71-4A1B-8B60-7A5640B7D09A_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

I think the Loran-C =E2=80=9Cslave=E2= =80=9C stations were officially called =E2=80=9Csecondaries=E2=80=9C, possi= bly for political correctness.

 

73, Markus

&n= bsp;

 

 

Von: Dr. Wolf Ostwald
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Februar= 2016 06:41
An: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: activity times a= nd days MF + LF

 

Hi Stefan !

no, i was just using the = master/slave scheme from LORAN systems as an

analo= gy. As everybody on this reflector is familiar with it ;-)

I guess the "master station " should be selected from a v= iew of

practicality. It needs a somewhat geographi= cally centered position in EU

plus some technical = advancedness.

Looks to me as if u are in the bowl := -)

And yes, the northamericanos are doing this acti= vity thing quite nicely,

an european counterpart e= vent would be a timely thing i guess.

The kite ante= nna is intriguing but it is not a normal installation and

requires lots of time and weather cooperation. I=C2=B4d reserve tha= t for TA

attempts. Just too much effort for a regu= lar thing to happen.

The signals are so loud in EU = on MF, even verticals of 10m height only

produce e= normous signals. I guess a wide audience can play that game.

On the other hand . TGIF !!!!

 =

73 de wolf=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 df2py

=

 

Am 04.02.201= 6 um 21:40 schrieb DK7FC:

> Hi Wolf,

> 

> No no, i do= n't want to be a master station. And others are no slaves

> at all. My signal may be one of the stronger ones :-) but this= does

> not rise me in a higher position.

> Yes it would be interesting to see what is possible= here in EU, an

> activity day like the Canadia= ns do :-) Also it would help to announce

> it &= quot;officially", i.e. in the local radio magazines! But then this

> requires some planning :-)

> But it would be nice to do something with a kite again, when thinki= ng

> about events :-)

&= gt; 

> 73, Stefan

> 

> Am 04.02.2016 = 21:06, schrieb Dr. Wolf Ostwald:

>> Hi Stefan= !

>> well, maybe it would be nice if You can= coin an idea about a special

>> activity ho= ur on MF per week. It would be like in them ol` days when

>> coastal radio stns checked into a circuit.

>> Just for the fun of it.

>> = This evening Dk1IS, IK2DED,IK2CLB all with S9+ signals whooping on

>> r-CW. No JT or WSPR needed by them ( no pun inten= ded )

>> You could do the master station and = call up "the slaves". Should be

>>= an interesting picture to see how far European stations could hear

>> each other and what area can be covered.

>> 

>>= 73 de wolf=C2=A0 df2py

>> 

>> 

&g= t; 

 

 

 

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