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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 10:50:57 -0600
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From: John Langridge <kb5njd@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: Re[2]: LF: Is everyone else struggling to get onto WSPRNET?
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Yes we are all very appreciative for the free service that we have been
given with WSPRnet.  Its amazing that there are 10000 to 20000 server hits
per hour *just for uploads* on a normal day.  I learned only this week that
the upload process was a spot at a time rather than a file upload and file
parse process.  As you said, a vicitim of its own success.

73,

John

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:40 AM, DAVE PICK <daveyxm@virginmedia.com> wrote:

> John
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> It appears that WSPR is a victim of it's own success and I'm keen to make
> clear that it's in no way a complaint against a wonderful free service!
>
> I guess WSPRnet has to deal with what is effectively a denial of service
> attack all day and night, being bombarded with upload requests from
> thousands of unattended transmitters and download requests from a similar
> number of observers - just look at the stats!
>
> Please pass on our thanks to those who maintain it.
>
> Dave G(M)3YXM
>
> On 31 January 2016 at 16:24 John Langridge <kb5njd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For what its worth, the "alternative" WSPR reporting option that was
> mentioned last Sunday is on line and functional as development is on going.
> The address is HAMWSPR.com and is in use by several experimental stations
> in the US and a few stations in Europe during the overnight periods. The
> process does not replace WSPRnet, instead WSPR data is redirected to the
> alternative site via a networking change at the WSPR operator's PC. The
> data is forwarded on to WSPRnet when it is working but data is rendered
> almost immediately on the HAMWSPR site. The raw data renporting process on
> HAMWSPR is a little different at the moment compared to WSPRnet but it
> seems to work well.
>
> While the redirect procedure and address is no secret, I have sent a
> message to the developer to see if he is prepared to release that
> information in public before I mention it here.
>
> As I said before, I am not the point man for this project, only a user.
>
> 73!
>
> John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ..
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Chris Wilson < chris@chriswilson.tv>
> wrote:
>
> Hello DAVE,
>
> Sunday, January 31, 2016
>
> Thanks Dave, just found the OPERA map site is knackered, too. I'll
> open a few tinnies I think and turn the TX off for now :) Been working
> yesterday and today, can't be battling WSPR as well right now, I need
> de-stressing.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Chris 2E0ILY mailto: chris@chriswilson.tv
>
>
>
> > Yes Chris and my uploads are failing most of the time.
>
>
> > Dave in GM
>
> >
> >
> > On 31 January 2016 at 15:52 Chris Wilson < chris@chriswilson.tv> wrote:
>
>
> > 31 January 2016
>
>
> > Can't log on here at all, it's been flaky for weeks, seems to be a
> > whole lot worse though this weekend. Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes we are all very appreciative for the free service=
 that we have been given with WSPRnet.=C2=A0 Its amazing that there are 100=
00 to 20000 server hits per hour *just for uploads* on a normal day.=C2=A0 =
I learned only this week that the upload process was a spot at a time rathe=
r than a file upload and file parse process.=C2=A0 As you said, a vicitim o=
f its own success.<br><br>73,<br><br></div>John<br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:40 AM, D=
AVE PICK <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daveyxm@virginmedia.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">daveyxm@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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=20
  <p>John<br></p>
  <p>Thanks for the info.<br></p>
  <p>It appears that WSPR is a victim of it&#39;s own success and I&#39;m k=
een to make clear that it&#39;s in no way a complaint against a wonderful f=
ree service!<br></p>
  <p>I guess WSPRnet has to deal with what is effectively a denial of servi=
ce attack all day and night, being bombarded with upload requests from thou=
sands of unattended transmitters and download requests from a similar numbe=
r of observers - just look at the stats!<br></p>
  <p>Please pass on our thanks to those who maintain it.<br></p>
  <p>Dave G(M)3YXM<br></p>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   On 31 January 2016 at 16:24 John Langridge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kb5njd@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kb5njd@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
   <br>
   <br>
   <div dir=3D"ltr">
    <div>
     For what its worth, the &quot;alternative&quot; WSPR reporting option =
that was mentioned last Sunday is on line and functional as development is =
on going. The address is=20
     <a href=3D"http://HAMWSPR.com" target=3D"_blank">HAMWSPR.com</a> and i=
s in use by several experimental stations in the US and a few stations in E=
urope during the overnight periods. The process does not replace WSPRnet, i=
nstead WSPR data is redirected to the alternative site via a networking cha=
nge at the WSPR operator&#39;s PC. The data is forwarded on to WSPRnet when=
 it is working but data is rendered almost immediately on the HAMWSPR site.=
 The raw data renporting process on HAMWSPR is a little different at the mo=
ment compared to WSPRnet but it seems to work well.
     <br>
     <br>
    </div>
    <div>
     While the redirect procedure and address is no secret, I have sent a m=
essage to the developer to see if he is prepared to release that informatio=
n in public before I mention it here.
     <br>
     <br>
    </div>
    <div>
     As I said before, I am not the point man for this project, only a user=
.
     <br>
    </div>
    <div>
     <br>73!
     <br>
     <br>
    </div>
    <div>
     John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ..
     <br>
    </div>
    <div>
     <br>
    </div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div class=3D"gmail_extra">
    <br>
    <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
     On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Chris Wilson &lt;
     <a href=3D"mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv" target=3D"_blank">chris@chrisw=
ilson.tv</a>&gt; wrote:
     <br>
     <blockquote>
      Hello DAVE,
      <br>=20
      <br> Sunday, January 31, 2016
      <br>=20
      <br> Thanks Dave, just found the OPERA map site is knackered, too. I&=
#39;ll
      <br> open a few tinnies I think and turn the TX off for now :) Been w=
orking
      <br> yesterday and today, can&#39;t be battling WSPR as well right no=
w, I need
      <br> de-stressing.
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br> Best regards,
      <br> Chris 2E0ILY mailto:
      <a href=3D"mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv" target=3D"_blank">chris@chris=
wilson.tv</a>
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br> &gt; Yes Chris and my uploads are failing most of the time.
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br> &gt; Dave in GM
      <br>=20
      <br> &gt;
      <br> &gt;
      <br> &gt; On 31 January 2016 at 15:52 Chris Wilson &lt;
      <a href=3D"mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv" target=3D"_blank">chris@chris=
wilson.tv</a>&gt; wrote:
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br> &gt; 31 January 2016
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br> &gt; Can&#39;t log on here at all, it&#39;s been flaky for weeks=
, seems to be a
      <br> &gt; whole lot worse though this weekend. Thanks
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br>=20
      <br>
     </blockquote>
    </div>
    <br>
   </div>
  </blockquote>
  <p><br>=C2=A0</p>
=20
</div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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