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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:47:41 -0600
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From: John Langridge <kb5njd@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: WSPRnet problems
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I didn't really want to get into these details but the fact is that many of
us have made efforts to contact Bruce over several months to no avail.
That's not intended to be a criticism - real life gets in the way sometimes
and that's ok.  I, and others, are focusing on the fact that we need a
solution.  Resources in the form of money, hardware and brainpower have
been offered by a number of people and have gone unacknowledged for a very
long time.  So this was not a "shoot from the hip" response.  During the
last major outage in December (not as bad as this one, mind you), there was
talk about having discussions about the future of the system and where it
needs to go.  To my knowledge, that was the last time there was any mention
of any talks about the direction of the system.

The good news is that this system will still feed the WSPRnet site data in
much the same way that WSPRnet feeds the PSKReporter site.  The difference
is that WSPR will feed  the new system first, before passing the data on to
WSPRNet which passes the data on the PSKreporter (in theory).    SO WSPRnet
does not go away, it just ceases to be the "bottle neck" for those who
choose to use the new system.

Hopefully this clarifies things.  I am not the point person for this
venture.  I am only a frustrated user.
73!

John


On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Tobias DG3LV <DG3LV@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi John !
>
> The website owner(s) can be found at :
>
> http://www.whois.com/whois/wsprnet.org
>
> There is a lot of information on how you can get into contact with them.
> It would be better hamspirit to help them solve the(ir) problems than to
> think about establishing alternatives. Unless we know more exactly about
> the true nature of the problems at wsprnet.org we cannot be of help.
>
> 73 de dg3lv Tobias
>
> Am 24.01.2016 um 17:38 schrieb John Langridge:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> As most ops already know, the WSPRnet website has been down more than up
>> over the last several days.  There do not appear to be any updates to
>> the status posted any where, at least nothing current.  Its almost as if
>> a "take it or leave it " attitude is now the status quo.  Its a free,
>> volunteer-driven web site that I pay nothing for, so I can't argue.
>>
>> An alternate data warehousing and rendering system and website is being
>> developed and tested by a father/son team but its not ready yet.
>> Details will be forthcoming once appropriate. as well as instructions on
>> the new data entry point.
>>
>> In the mean time, if you find spots in your WSPR console RX window that
>> are noteworthy, please be sure to post them or send me a direct email
>> with the details.  I use this information as part of my daily 630-meter
>> band report.  As you can imagine, the WSPRnet outage has complicated the
>> data gathering and reporting.
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance.  73!
>>
>> John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ..
>>
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I didn&#39;t really want to get into these details bu=
t the fact is that many of us have made efforts to contact Bruce over sever=
al months to no avail.=C2=A0 That&#39;s not intended to be a criticism - re=
al life gets in the way sometimes and that&#39;s ok.=C2=A0 I, and others, a=
re focusing on the fact that we need a solution.=C2=A0 Resources in the for=
m of money, hardware and brainpower have been offered by a number of people=
 and have gone unacknowledged for a very long time.=C2=A0 So this was not a=
 &quot;shoot from the hip&quot; response.=C2=A0 During the last major outag=
e in December (not as bad as this one, mind you), there was talk about havi=
ng discussions about the future of the system and where it needs to go.=C2=
=A0 To my knowledge, that was the last time there was any mention of any ta=
lks about the direction of the system.=C2=A0 <br><br></div><div>The good ne=
ws is that this system will still feed the WSPRnet site data in much the sa=
me way that WSPRnet feeds the PSKReporter site.=C2=A0 The difference is tha=
t WSPR will feed=C2=A0 the new system first, before passing the data on to =
WSPRNet which passes the data on the PSKreporter (in theory).=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 SO WSPRnet does not go away, it just ceases to be the &quot;bottle n=
eck&quot; for those who choose to use the new system.<br><br></div><div>Hop=
efully this clarifies things.=C2=A0 I am not the point person for this vent=
ure.=C2=A0 I am only a frustrated user.<br>73!<br><br></div><div>John<br><b=
r></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Tobias DG3LV <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:DG3LV@gmx.net" target=3D"_blank">DG3LV@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi John !<br>
<br>
The website owner(s) can be found at :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.whois.com/whois/wsprnet.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.whois.com/whois/wsprnet.org</a><br>
<br>
There is a lot of information on how you can get into contact with them. It=
 would be better hamspirit to help them solve the(ir) problems than to thin=
k about establishing alternatives. Unless we know more exactly about the tr=
ue nature of the problems at <a href=3D"http://wsprnet.org" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">wsprnet.org</a> we cannot be of help.<br>
<br>
73 de dg3lv Tobias<br>
<br>
Am 24.01.2016 um 17:38 schrieb John Langridge:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Good morning,<br>
<br>
As most ops already know, the WSPRnet website has been down more than up<br=
>
over the last several days.=C2=A0 There do not appear to be any updates to<=
br>
the status posted any where, at least nothing current.=C2=A0 Its almost as =
if<br>
a &quot;take it or leave it &quot; attitude is now the status quo.=C2=A0 It=
s a free,<br>
volunteer-driven web site that I pay nothing for, so I can&#39;t argue.<br>
<br>
An alternate data warehousing and rendering system and website is being<br>
developed and tested by a father/son team but its not ready yet.<br>
Details will be forthcoming once appropriate. as well as instructions on<br=
>
the new data entry point.<br>
<br>
In the mean time, if you find spots in your WSPR console RX window that<br>
are noteworthy, please be sure to post them or send me a direct email<br>
with the details.=C2=A0 I use this information as part of my daily 630-mete=
r<br>
band report.=C2=A0 As you can imagine, the WSPRnet outage has complicated t=
he<br>
data gathering and reporting.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your assistance.=C2=A0 73!<br>
<br>
John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ..<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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